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Post by novastar6 on Feb 20, 2024 23:10:33 GMT
Do you believe that bodily autonomy is an absolute right? If your answer is yes then do you believe a woman should be legally allowed to drink and/or do drugs during pregnancy to purposely inflict a disability on the unborn child? On bodily autonomy - yes. I'm not sure if there are any laws on the books on your second question, but a person's rights ends where other person's begins. If the baby will be carried to term it becomes a person, then yes, it should be illegal. If it's going to be aborted, then who cares?
Maybe nobody would've 'cared' if James Harrison was born or not...but if his mother had aborted him, 2.4 million babies would've died in a 60-year span as a direct result.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 23, 2024 23:23:20 GMT
Meanwhile, away from the increasingly theocratic States, and the ascendancy of the anti-feminist fundamentalist Lifers there, in the UK there is a different direction of travel where
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Post by Admin on Feb 24, 2024 0:05:51 GMT
the increasingly theocratic States God save the king. There is no shortage of people in the states who aren't happy with the current abortion laws. I haven't checked any polls, but I would guess the numbers are higher in the US than the UK. "55% against women being prosecuted" seems low, or at least lower than it should be IMO.
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Post by clusium on Feb 24, 2024 1:34:23 GMT
the increasingly theocratic States God save the king. There is no shortage of people in the states who aren't happy with the current abortion laws. I haven't checked any polls, but I would guess the numbers are higher in the US than the UK. "55% against women being prosecuted" seems low, or at least lower than it should be IMO.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 24, 2024 11:27:00 GMT
God apparently doesn't want to. The King has cancer.
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Post by novastar6 on Mar 2, 2024 8:38:31 GMT
Anybody else just a little curious why these 'experts' in a totally legitimate and lifesaving field of necessary medical procedures, just tapdance around very basic questions they should have no problem answering? It tends to imply that either they have no idea what they're talking about or, like criminals, they deny what they can't admit and only admit what they can't deny. And for a legitimate lifesaving medical procedure, why would there be anything they can't just openly admit to, or don't WANT to openly admit to? Medicine has never been a pretty industry, so shouldn't providing facts about saving lives trump 'oh I don't like the word you used so I'm just not going to answer'?
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Post by transfuged on Mar 2, 2024 16:44:13 GMT
Anybody else just a little curious why these 'experts' in a totally legitimate and lifesaving field of necessary medical procedures, just tapdance around very basic questions they should have no problem answering? It tends to imply that either they have no idea what they're talking about or, like criminals, they deny what they can't admit and only admit what they can't deny. And for a legitimate lifesaving medical procedure, why would there be anything they can't just openly admit to, or don't WANT to openly admit to? Medicine has never been a pretty industry, so shouldn't providing facts about saving lives trump 'oh I don't like the word you used so I'm just not going to answer'? No. Considering the way you ask, I definitely do not want to know. Obviously they have a right not to answear to bullying. You use negative terms, but these do not prove disingenuity. The accusation must be backed with something more elaborated imho. By the accuser. (You)
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Post by novastar6 on Mar 16, 2024 20:56:27 GMT
I guess now pro-aborts who for years have pretended that women can't get Plan B, it's so hard, they don't know where to look, it's too expensive, it's not like it's RX free, it's NOT like it's advertised on TV every single day telling women 'if you're not ready for kids, take this pill', girls have NO idea it exists, it's not like it's in every pharmacy, Walmart, etc. etc., are now going to have to pretend that Olivia's on a double secret tour that NOBODY can find out where the concerts are to get the Plan B.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 17, 2024 18:38:20 GMT
I guess now pro-aborts who for years have pretended that women can't get Plan B, it's so hard... As I understand it, anti-abortion activists are citing the ancient Comstock Act as they seek to criminalize the act of sending abortion pills through the mail. (It could also end up having widespread consequences for those trying to access mifepristone—a group that includes patients having miscarriages. The drug is sometimes prescribed to increase the likelihood that these patients won’t need to undergo a more invasive procedure. So yes, things could get hard. www.smithsonianmag.com/history/comstock-act-transform-abortion-debate-180982363/
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 19, 2024 22:59:19 GMT
We were told 'abortion is the HARDEST decision a woman ever makes in her life and it's NEVER made lightly'.
We were told 'abortion is MOSTLY done for rape/incest and life-or-death emergencies, women DON'T just get them to convenience themselves'.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 20, 2024 11:36:35 GMT
We were told 'abortion is MOSTLY done for rape/incest and life-or-death emergencies...'. I am sure you can easily reference where you were told that, and by whom?
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Post by novastar6 on May 18, 2024 6:33:08 GMT
We were told 'abortion is MOSTLY done for rape/incest and life-or-death emergencies...'. I am sure you can easily reference where you were told that, and by whom?
If you want to backtrack on what pro-aborts have been insisting for years, you're confirming what pro-lifers have been saying, abortion is NOT healthcare in the bulk of all cases, so it should not be recognized as such, and only the single digit percent of cases that actually are should remain legal, and women who can't bother being sexually responsible shouldn't get to lump themselves in with rape/incest victims or medical crises patients.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 18, 2024 10:47:35 GMT
I am sure you can easily reference where you were told that, and by whom?
If you want to backtrack on what pro-aborts have been insisting for years, you're confirming what pro-lifers have been saying, abortion is NOT healthcare in the bulk of all cases, so it should not be recognized as such, and only the single digit percent of cases that actually are should remain legal, and women who can't bother being sexually responsible shouldn't get to lump themselves in with rape/incest victims or medical crises patients.
So you can't reference anything then?
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Post by amyghost on May 18, 2024 11:53:33 GMT
It's obvious enough where this is headed: we'll be back to the early part of the twentieth century (and before), where the wealthy travel to Europe to receive an abortion; and the poor will rely on coathangers, Drano, back alleys, and an abysmal mortality rate. This will suit the moralistas just fine, because it means God is removing more hateful sinners from using up the moralistas' rightful share of oxygen.
God screw the theocracy, and the theocrats.
(FWIW, I just put N6 on block. Cannot endure any more of those braindead Youtube videos, which are migraine-inducing to look at, even as stills. I suspect she spends too much time in the outhouse dialing those things up to need worry herself about the consequences of unintended pregnancy, in any case.)
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