The difference between MCU and DC villains.
Oct 24, 2017 12:40:27 GMT
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Post by charzhino on Oct 24, 2017 12:40:27 GMT
Bond is stale at the minute. Spectre was more disappointing than Skyfall mainly because the villain. Spectre would have been better if they utilized Christoph Waltz as a better bad guy but Javier Bardem was a great rival to Bond and the best action movies in history have hav the best villains from Indiana Jones to Die Hard.
Because even after all these years the idea that the villain is NOT the star of the show and the hero is actually a character and not a "Oppose the villain" cipher is still hard to swallow for some people. They WANT the hero to do nothing but react to the villain instead of being a proactive character in their own right.
First of all, you can have both. You can write great villains but also have internal conflict. A great example of this is Doc Ok in Spiderman 2, he isn't a outright evil villain who pushes Peter to the limit. The conflict comes from Peters normal life with problems of responsibility, hiding the truth to Aunt May and MJ, holding down a job, etc. The Spiderman-Doc Ok conflict is secondary BUT they marry this well as Spidermans internal conflict is the central theme to how he ultimately defeats Doc Ok when he says, "Sometimes, to do what's right, we must be steady and give up the things we desire the most". Thats textbook dynamics of writing great villains AND heros.
Homecoming tried to copy that but because of Holland's Parker was young they couldnt get the same intensity which is why its watered down. Vulture was good but the dynamic with Peters problems wasnt written well enough.
A film like Logan was also missing this. It showed a lot of internal conflict of James Howlett but this wasnt intertwined with the villains ethos in any way, which is why it isnt a perfect film.
Joker-Batman, Miranada Tate/Bane-Batman, Raas-Batman, Xavier-Magneto, Shaw-Magneto, Superman-Zod (MoS), Bucky-Cap are all great examples of how to write the hero-villain relationship with each hero having their own distinct internal conflict.
The best comic films have the villain breaking down the hero and testing their resolve whilst still being relevant to the heros personal demons. The only MCU films that come close are The First Avenger, Winter Soldier, Iron Man 1 and GotG 2.0. And 3 of those are phase 1 films, before the MCU became poor imo. The rest the villains are tame and easily conquered without the heros suffering which is the real lazy way out.