Post by formersamhmd on Oct 24, 2017 12:46:53 GMT
Bond is stale at the minute. Spectre was more disappointing than Skyfall mainly because the villain. Spectre would have been better if they utilized Christoph Waltz as a better bad guy but Javier Bardem was a great rival to Bond and the best action movies in history have hav the best villains from Indiana Jones to Die Hard.
Eh, I thought Bardem's character was just a knock-off of Alec from Goldeneye. But frankly the Die Hard and Indiana Jones villains aren't any better than MCU villains.
First of all, you can have both. You can write great villains but also have internal conflict.
It doesn't happen that often. Especially not in X-Men or DC.
A great example of this is Doc Ok in Spiderman 2, he isn't a outright evil villain who pushes Peter to the limit. The conflict comes from Peters normal life with problems of responsibility, hiding the truth to Aunt May and MJ, holding down a job, etc. The Spiderman-Doc Ok conflict is secondary BUT they marry this well as Spidermans internal conflict is the central theme to how he ultimately defeats Doc Ok when he says, "Sometimes, to do what's right, we must be steady and give up the things we desire the most". Thats textbook dynamics of writing great villains AND heros.
I thought having Ock's tentacles controlling him was a cop-out especially how he goes back to being good once the tentacles are disabled., and SM2 had some pretty contrived stuff. Like how a lot of Peter's problems came from him just not being able to think up reasonable excuses for missing stuff like MJ's play, and how Ock made the deal to get the Tritium from Harry instead of just stealing it from him, etc.
Homecoming tried to copy that but because of Holland's Parker was young they couldnt get the same intensity which is why its watered down. Vulture was good but the dynamic with Peters problems wasnt written well enough.
I think it's good for his first movie.
Joker-Batman, Miranada Tate/Bane-Batman, Xavier-Magneto, Shaw-Magneto, Superman-Zod (MoS), Bucky-Cap are all great examples of how to write the hero-villain relationship with each hero having their own distinct internal conflict.
I wouldn't put Joker-Batman or Talia in there. In those ones, the villains (as usual for Nolan) dominated and Batman was secondary.
The best comic films have the villain breaking down the hero and testing their resolve whilst still being relevant to the heros personal demons.
When you have characters whose greatest enemy is themselves (Tony, Dr Strange, the Guardians to an extent) it sort of makes sense for the story to be about them.