Post by formersamhmd on Oct 24, 2017 13:53:15 GMT

That is not the OP premise, merh. That being said, if we expand these parameters in your sense, Magneto would indeed be one of the greatest CBM-villains and the only one that is not totally eclipsed by the iconic DC rogue gallery like Joker, Lex Luther, Penguin, Catwoman et al. Note that I am talking about and limiting this to the Fox-Men holocaust-surviving Magneto, not the silly comic book version.
That is not the point of discussion. That aside, from a writing theory angle, the MCU heroes are all very formulaic, beginning with their character ars, namely the all popular "Jerk goes through crisis, learns skills and becomes nice guy superhero" arc. We have seen this with Logan in the excellent X1 movie. And the same arc was reused for Iron Man (several times), Dr Strange, Antman, Thor etc (Cap has no arc except becoming BEEFCAKE).
That formulaic trope writing applies to the villains too btw, like with Magneto in MCU you will often find the popular old-friend-becomes-nemesis trope (IM, Thor etc).
I would hardly call this "feshing out" the heroes, it is just a collection of writing tropes, clichees and popular actors conveying the ilusion of character writing.
And , in their respective origin stories the DC heroes are at least as fleshed out as the MCU ones, think Superman1 (the template for MCU films according to Feige), Batman Begins, Wonder Woman, and MOS.
I have an early Thor where Loki attacks Thor as the son of Odin, Loki's enemy. No brother stuff mentioned.
They were all wish fulfillment. Drink a potion, become Captain America. Shoot a few arrows & become Green Arrow or Hawkeye. They were kid stories like Saturday Morning Cartoons.
All the rest is machinations to make them appeal to an older audience
Steve Rogers was the 98 lb weakling who had sand kicked in his face figuratively until a magic potion made him a hero in an era many now can't comprehend, an era where boys lied about their age to join the army. His spirit was willing, but his body weak until science fixed it.
How the HELL is that not an arc?

