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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 8, 2017 16:33:21 GMT
There is nothing egotistical about wanting unambiguous evidence for everyone rather than the entirely ambiguous "personal" evidence that SOME people experience and others don't. In fact, the people who claim they know because of ambiguous personal experiences and that everyone else is wrong are the real egotists. Nonsense. You do realize that many "working class" people can post on message boards from their work and all of them can post in their spare time, don't you? If everyone had the same dream then anyone claiming others were mentally ill for admitting it would also be claiming it about themselves. How can a shop assistant or a long-distance lorry driver post from the office they don't have? As for the dream, you have a touching faith in the honesty of those who are atheists for emotional reasons. I said some working class people; namely, most of them in offices with access to a computer, smart phone, and internet. Plus, there are plenty who aren't technically "working class" but make about the same amount working from home from a PC. That included me for many years and I would simply post on boards like this in between what work I had to do. I would agree that there will be some atheists for which no evidence would convince; I'd still contend they're in the minority. Most atheists are so simply because they don't see any evidence for God. My endeavor was just trying to think of something that would count as universal and unambiguous evidence, something everyone could witness. You're also forgetting about all the believers in different religions, or all those that grew up in highly atheist/secular societies who have just never given much though to religion. It wouldn't just be for the types of atheists that post here.
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