Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 22:17:01 GMT
Nov 11, 2017 21:00:16 GMT @graham said:
You're suggesting that a society that seeks its own demise should be considered to be a functional one. I find that a peculiar notion.Society is a fairly nebulous term. The world is full of societies, many of them overlapping. Some strictly defined, some not.
I have no problem saying that the entirety of human civilisation is one big society. It's just a very loosely bound one.
And yes, I'd have no problem with defining a greater society that included humans and AI. I'd also have no problem with humans destroying the AIs if they decided to destroy the rest of the society. Or even if they wanted to destroy chunks of it. At the risk of Godwin, it's really no different from how certain human nations started to be so dangerous to other nations, and so obnoxious in their behaviour within their own borders, that everyone else decided to put a stop to it.
Anyway societies seeking to preserve themselves is generally not considered a good excuse. The kinda society the white people in The Help have was pretty much destroyed by giving equal rights to black citizens. Yet we don't consider Bryce Dallas Howard's character justified in trying to prevent that.
Different thing, though. That wasn't one group trying to protect itself from attack by another, but one group trying to prevent another from stopping an ongoing attack upon them.
Quite possibly - never claimed my view wasn't weird, it just seems more consistent to me.