'Batman vs Robin' is an awful movie and Joel should have skipped ahead to 'Batman Triumphant' after 'Batman Forever' and not let Warner Bros heads bully them into making it more comedic and cartoonish to get younger views 'cause a movie of 'Arkham Knight' could have saved the franchise and been better than the Nolan movies but I would rather watch Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy and Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl than the Nolan movies.