Justice League is better than Thor: Ragnarok

Justice League is better than Thor: Ragnarok Nov 24, 2017 3:30:37 GMT taylorfirst1 likes this

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Post by harpospoke on Nov 24, 2017 3:30:37 GMT

Nov 23, 2017 21:39:12 GMT DC-Fan said:

Nov 23, 2017 20:56:18 GMT harpospoke said:

There aren't actually any rules for what "true heroes" do. Sometimes you have to make a sacrifice in order to "save". That's what Thor did. Your description of "destroy" isn't remotely accurate to what happened. Surtur did the destroying.

Ripley is physically weak too but she is still a hero. (one of the best ever) She had to destroy her ship to win in Alien and had to destroy the eggs in Aliens and "nuke from orbit" was the goal there. You should watch more adventure movies before you make up some rigid rules for heroes.

The Thor ending was the opposite of the lazy way in my mind. I saw every hero this year do the "reach deep down for hidden strength" thing. That's the cliche. Thor got the "hidden strength" and that wasn't enough to beat the villain. Pretty original.

It isn't original at all. You even admitted that Ripley did the same thing in Aliens. And Captain Kirk did the same thing setting the Enterprise on self-destruct in The Search for Spock. But the Enterprise was just a ship and the Federation could and did build another Enterprise. Asgard was the home of the Asgardians and Thor (and the writers) took the lazy way out and destroyed the Asgardians' home and turned the Asgardians into refugees without a home.

Are you pretending to not understand my post or do you really not understand it?

I was talking about two distinctly different things there.

1-A hero destroying something is not against a phantom "rule" for heroes. That's not a real rule...you even pointed out another example. (thanks)

2-The "reach down deep for more strength" thing is a cliche used in Logan, GotG2, SM:H, and WW this year. Thor did something more original. If Thor followed the cliche, his "Odin inspiration" would have allowed him to defeat Hela. They didn't do that. Hela was still more powerful. They even pointed it out that Thor's increased power wasn't enough.