Post by drystyx on Mar 10, 2017 16:25:07 GMT
Mar 2, 2017 15:27:07 GMT @graham said:
I think that depends on how you were raised.For instance, say two families go to a restaurant. In each, a kid screams, makes noise, is rude to the staff, etc.
In family A, father says "You don't do that! If you behave that way, I'll spank you when we get home!"
In family B, father explains to the kid that what he's doing is wrong. He points out that the people are there to have a good time and being noisy ruins it for him. Maybe he says something like "When you're watching cartoons, you want people to be quiet so you can hear them, right? These people only want the same thing from you."
I think you could fairly say that approach A isn't likely to lead to a moral person, just one who is trained to do as he's told. B, however, is teaching a person to apply empathy and rationally consider the impact of his actions on others.
Obviously, I favour approach B.Actually, that created a worse problem during the modern days of America. This became more common, from what I observed certainly in middle America, during the seventies and eighties.The problem is that it doesn't allude to "moral" issues unless the child has a moral compass. The "demon possession" in people makes people simply "tunnel" their scope to certain priorities. Unless the child has a "moral compass", he will simply choose other people to torment. I know because I witnessed this 100 times out of 100. e.g.-former KKK families who were taught that negroes had human rights would simply channel their demon possessed persecution to someone else they could get away with doing it to. Part of the hostility during the sixties and seventies was because pretty much every one of the white people who joined in civil rights action were descendants of slave owning families and klan members. This was known at the time. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had a harder time keeping these people in check than he did with traditional racists.e.g. A kid with no true moral compass can be told to keep the noise down for the reasons you state, but he will simply choose another way to torment and persecute others. (In fact, most "new generation people" simply ignore this and continue to claim they don't abuse others). If the kid with demons can't harass others with noise, and noise is a "no-no", this will be used for the benefit of the demon inside. He'll yell threats at someone who is hard of hearing, or someone who is in a squeaky chair and doesn't know it. In fact, I know positively of a case where "new generation" people would complain of a squeaky chair and then when the subject of their complaint changed chairs, each time the subject left the room, the "new generation" punks would switch the chair back to the original in order to yell threats again. They know that they can band together in demonic worship and "outvote" any one person, and make their "votes" a false testimony to get someone fired.Truth has no place with people who have no "good holy ghost" as a moral compass.Sorry, but those are the facts. If you live long enough, and get out among Nature and people enough, you'll learn this.

