Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 2:40:11 GMT
Nov 4, 2017 5:17:13 GMT _ said:
Nov 4, 2017 4:01:42 GMT @weirdraptor said:
Alien ran its course back in '86.From everything I have ever heard, it didn't.

The worst sin was the opening five minutes. I'll spoiler it, I guess.
1. They show an egg hatching on the Sulaco. But there was no egg on the Sulaco. There's no logical way an egg could possibly be on the Sulaco. So right away the entire premise of the film shatters under faulty logic. Seriously, the single smartest thing Cameron did with Aliens was to treat the original movie with respect and make everything he did grow seamlessly from that original work without damaging it one bit. He wanted colonists on the planet, so he went to the trouble of making a terraforming colony and then used that idea for his movie. He didn't just go "oh, people can live there now because I want them there for my story" and leave the audience to wonder WTF was going on. This alone was an irredeemable flaw.
2) The movie kills Hicks and Newt off screen, within the first five minutes. Again, what a great way to take a giant dump on the previous movie! Let's take one half of the survivors, people the audience has come to know and like... and just unceremoniously off them without the audience even seeing it. So your audience is now both puzzled and angry at your movie. Good start.
2) The movie kills Hicks and Newt off screen, within the first five minutes. Again, what a great way to take a giant dump on the previous movie! Let's take one half of the survivors, people the audience has come to know and like... and just unceremoniously off them without the audience even seeing it. So your audience is now both puzzled and angry at your movie. Good start.
Then throw in that the whole thing is so completely depressing and unrelentingly bleak.
And then add that the creature effects are, for the most part, terrible. They wanted a Xeno that was doglike, but nothing they tried worked. They even tried dressing a dog up in a Xeno costume :

...which looked ridiculous. They settled on a mix of puppetry and CGI. But the puppetry looks mostly bad, and the CGI looks mostly worse. After the incredible creature execution of Alien and Aliens, this is a huge letdown.
But the saddest thing about it is that there's actually a good movie under there trying to get out. It's not a horrible effort, by any means, it's more like a fairly good movie crushed to death by flaws and compromises and meddling that it could never overcome.