There's no such thing as a loving God

There's no such thing as a loving God Mar 12, 2017 2:26:31 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 2:26:31 GMT

Mar 12, 2017 0:59:32 GMT general313 said:

Mar 11, 2017 16:25:40 GMT @miccee said:

... But it would be impossible for free will to exist or be exercised in the way that would be required, because we do not choose our characteristics, our parents, our genes, our biases and proclivities, and we cannot choose which thoughts to think before we think them. This is why I would say that I know for a fact that the Christian conception of God does not exist.

In your view, can we choose anything at all then, or is that an illusion? Is our fate predetermined (or at least at the whim of random indeterminacy in a quantum universe)?

I don't believe that free will is possible in the sense that it is traditionally understood. I think that either our choices are completely predetermined. I recently read an article about 'unexpected' decisions possibly being linked to quantum uncertainty, but even that wouldn't really be 'free' will, it would just be random will. Because we wouldn't be in control of the indeterminacy; the indeterminacy would be in control of us. Either way, I think that there is no doubt that free choice is an illusion. It's incoherent.