I saw TLJ and it SUCKS

I saw TLJ and it SUCKS Dec 13, 2017 23:21:22 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 23:21:22 GMT

Dec 13, 2017 22:54:58 GMT @painbow said:

Dec 13, 2017 22:35:30 GMT @bartlesby said:

If I'm recalling correctly, it's strongly implied that Rey learns to use the Jedi Mind Trick as the result of Kylo Ren's probing of her mind. It doesn't just come out of nowhere; she was stealing his moves. This interpretation is further informed by her character's background as a scavenger. She would be somebody adept at identifying and appropriating things of value and lived in an environment where being adaptable, quick witted and decisive would be key to survival.

You meet a Jedi and assume you have his powers; yeah, that makes sense. What?

It makes sense for her character, which had already been strongly implied as having some inherent connection to the Force, to be able make a guess at what he was doing and boldly attempt to emulate it. Rey is also a far more determined and strong-willed person than Luke was, initially, so perhaps that also plays a part in how quickly she can learn magic that is entirely reliant on having faith in its ability to do the impossible.

It's strongly implied to the audience; not to Rey (unless you're suggesting that she's so powerful that she sensed she was in a movie and through that knowledge, realised she was a Jedi? Now that really would be impressive Jedi-ing).

Good grief, no.

The movie will eventually try to explain it but I suspect the explanation will be weak (she's related to Vader, she's a human clone of Yoda, she's the ultimate Jedi, blah blah yawn). But if they simply fudge it altogether and offer no real explanation then that's shoddy as hell.

Rey had already been aware of the Force by that point. If you'll recall, those scenes follow her freakout after finding the lightsaber, and after the dried apricot lady flat out stated that Rey had a connection to the Force. She does have his powers and she's well-aware of it by that point. The only question for her is whether she will embrace them and or whether she will run from them to avoid taking on the responsibility (again, this is in character, as she is reluctant to take on responsibilities but her conscience or circumstances often forces her to do exactly that).

So yes, it was implied to her very strongly that she could use the Force. It was a pivotal moment for her character and again, all this stuff was set up and didn't come out of nowhere.

I can see saying it wasn't executed well or that the pace was rushed, but in terms of storytelling, it covered its bases just fine in terms of setting up a logical progression.