Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 15:08:13 GMT
Dec 14, 2017 3:14:48 GMT @bartlesby said:
Luke received cursory training at best from Obi Wan in the first film and yet in the next film, he's able to use telekinesis. If the training is such an important point when it comes to using the Force, why would he have that ability despite never being trained in it? Did Obi Wan teach him that as a ghost? Or was it just to show that he had natural potential and that the training was there to teach him control and refinement, and ultimately restraint? What I'm saying is that like Rey, he figured out a few tricks by himself after becoming aware of his ability to use the Force, but he required training to learn to control it. This doesn't piss on anything as it has been a theme present since the second film.Also, in Return of the Jedi, Darth Vader is able to read Luke's mind so it's not so far-fetched that they can probe the thoughts of other Jedi if the circumstances are right.
No, not like Rey. Rey went through no training and she already used it like a master in 1 day. Darth Vader read Luke's mind because he's a veteran and Luke was under constant assault. Rey can suddenly overpower a mind probe while looking confused and mind probe back at Kylo Ren with no resistance. Which only further delegitimizes Kylo Ren as a threat.
She can also Force Grab a lightsaber while looking surprised she did it at all while at the same time Kylo Ren was entirely focusing on also doing a Force Grab.
He did it on his own with no training from Ben or anyone else. Some things you do indeed learn on your own or there would be no "things" in existence to begin with. For Pete's sake folks, use some philosophic logic here.
It did not take Luke long at all to be able to complete this task. It happened slightly the first time he tried and completely on his second attempt. It took him much longer to master the ability, however.