Post by cupcakes on Dec 19, 2017 11:41:07 GMT
tpfkar
Dec 19, 2017 11:34:18 GMT @miccee said:
Normal people think of free will as choosing and doing. Nobody (reasonable) has every thought we consciously micromanaged every reflex or trained response. "The product of determinism" is a loaded phrase that has implications that can be explored. If by that you mean everything is cause and effect, I've never thought nor asserted otherwise. If you then use that to try to pose that we're organic robots not really making choices, then I say you've got a whole lot of work to do as the science comes nowhere near it, regardless of your oversimplistic billiard-ball dippy bird applications.
And you're an utter liar. You just make up whatever you like for sh!ts and feels.
Driven by your desperate apocalypse faith of the Great Objective (mass killing),And they shouldn't be expected to pay the price of everyone else's joy. Especially if nobody would be deprived of that joy in a universe with no sentient life.
And by "Nobody (reasonable)", you're referring to the majority of the population, as shown here. And I'm tagging Eva Yojimbo in here again, just so that I can show that you were saving face earlier on to make it look as though you weren't arguing in favour of compatibilist free will.
As for your last para, you just really don't mind continuously displaying your overt derangements, do you. And "save face".
Good lord, can you hamsters grow a backbone?Not at all, because it's better for me to suffer than for a greater number of people to suffer.