Post by summers8 on Dec 27, 2017 0:01:26 GMT
They were not x-men fans only. They were casual viewers that notice all the wolverine love. Facts of the matter, xmen , F4 and Spiderman were already mainstream household names before any movies. People knew who they were. MCU fans, like it or not but marvel had a huge life before they were sold into slavery by Disney. this is why you folks are mcu fans not real marvel fans.
When I said 75 years it was about marvel in general, after all they had a 75 year anniversary a few years back were Disney banned X-Men and F4 from any celebration covers and guess what? People were angry not just fans, marvel had to back track on it. or shall I say Disney?
Steve is still seen as a bland guy even with the help of movies. cyclops? not so much, all cyke needs is a movie of him and like the comics he will mop the floor with steve rogers as most interesting marvel leader. Cyke is more like a game of thrones character now. Steve is the poster boy for kids to buys toys even with the nazi shock value thing. see homecoming. reason disney should not touch cyke. i rather see cyke with fox and a director that cares about him than for him to get disneylized. lol.
Um, so iron man is a house hold name but he cannot still produce any good comic story arcs at a constant rate, does not have a highly acclaimed successful cartoon, can't headline strong successful video games that rivals the batman arkram asylum series and has no cultural impact outside of what rdj does. Yeah that was what Disney discovered when they tried to push as their batman and it all bombed.
he bombed even with disney power. xmen and spiderman do that with ease, they did it for decades, reason both have had incredibly longevity and iron man will never have any. add also xmen and spiderman had highly successful independent movies thanks to fox and sony. they did not needed to be lumped into a cinematic universe like iron man. reason he will never been seen as true A -Lister. Dr Doom and Mr fantastic are still more of an a-lister(s) with 3 'bad' movies than iron man ever will be.
You chose GOTG the most cartoonish of all mcu movies that even makes Frozen look more adult orientated? What is your deal?lol. Kids go to see GOTG. When they are older they will see Logan, X2 and DOFP and realize that there are real comic films out where , that do not dance around in front of villains and not everything is about colors, cgi and silly jokes. One of the many Reason xmen has had huge longevity for 60 years that not even freaking Disney could kill them off. Disney can kill gotg all they need to do is stop making their movies and baby groot toys. they have nothing to fall back on like spiderman or xmen.
DOFP killed winter reception because it is better movie. Feige even kind of indirectly admitted it when he praised DOFP in 2014 with winter solider fairly out (not good) or was that just fiege and is sick obsession with xmen? You tell me.
Not that big in box office but dofp made more worldwide right? And with a sex scandal that did hurt the movie. Apocalypse is a bad movie and since xmen movies are not pampered by the critics and the media the movie does not get a pass like age of ultron. Civil war made 1 billion as avengrs 2.5 , more cross over marvel movies, still a flop from age of ultron. Iron man made 1.2 billion still an artistic flop compared to iron man 2.
When xmen hits a billion, which would have been easy with a hard reboot and competent director. it should be done TDK or LOTR style. Not avengers style that in a few years later the director will call HISown film half assed and say his best comic work is not avengers but his xmen novels, which usually does rank as one of the greatest comic books ever written and yes whedon said so before disney fired him.. John landis is not defending his son. He said what he said because it is true. David Fincher and the Selma director also implied the same thing about marvel.
x-men is not marvel.... not marvel-disney. its laughable to think logan, dofp, deadpool, legion is marvel in the midst of homecoming, thor 3, iron fist inhumans, defenders and gotg 2. Urgh. Just drop it.
DC is not failing, GOTG 2 is worse than justice league but since the media is the right arm of marvel studios they are anti anything not marvel.
X-Men and DC just have to work hard any good press.
MCU is popular to children and their ignorant fan base that has no clue of the real world we live in. if they were going strong, the next step will not be unnecessary cross over movies and to sniff life out of xmen and f4. X-Men should have remained separate.
Nolan indirectly said mcu movies were silly and they should not make a comparison to TDKR in 2012. He was bullied by the media marvel mafia to say sorry and he did then he bashed marvel again when he said dc movies should not have the goofy tone of mcu movies. In 2017 they asked him about marvel and DC, he implied he rather watch suicide squad than any marvel movie because he is a DC fan. Funny, go read what Nolan said about the earlier xmen movies and why he liked it so much, it everything mcu is not.. This is how you can tell how he truly feels about mcu movies, then please add his own friends like the cinematographer of most of his movies and the guy who played scarecrow. Both have said mcu is bs. it does not take a rocket scientist to know Nolan’s thoughts. He is just not bold enough like david ficnher who said mcu has poor story telling and is all about cgi.
Mangold is not trying to hold anything for fox. What mangold said about mcu is the same reason whedon or Egdar wright left ant man. There is no creative freedom and they all follow a formula. Mangold said mcu was nonsense long before Disney bought fox
So nate grey is your favorite character ever? Sinister’s best made, most tortured, hard to please, not trusting anyone , complicated unpredictable lab rat who is usually consumed by his powers. Wait till i tell you that he is not just far more interesting than iron man or any character in the mcu if you are a grown up who does not like simple comic stories and characters , then We will see how much of your favourite character he is. when you start bashing him and start telling me he sucks. lol.
Best part and now worst part about nate grey? Disney will never make movie about him. Or they will just make it stupid comedy. Fox could have easily made a great movie about him if they hired a character study director. no need for disney cgi big budget money. maybe an aoa dystopian point of view movie from nate grey’s perspective or the cable story line that deals with the theme of nature vs nuture.
This is why xmen is screwed now. We will never see movies like this again, we can't even dream of it,...all what we see is is cgi, toys and comedy, ask star wars fans after watching last jedi....so sad. So sad.
When I said 75 years it was about marvel in general, after all they had a 75 year anniversary a few years back were Disney banned X-Men and F4 from any celebration covers and guess what? People were angry not just fans, marvel had to back track on it. or shall I say Disney?
Steve is still seen as a bland guy even with the help of movies. cyclops? not so much, all cyke needs is a movie of him and like the comics he will mop the floor with steve rogers as most interesting marvel leader. Cyke is more like a game of thrones character now. Steve is the poster boy for kids to buys toys even with the nazi shock value thing. see homecoming. reason disney should not touch cyke. i rather see cyke with fox and a director that cares about him than for him to get disneylized. lol.
Um, so iron man is a house hold name but he cannot still produce any good comic story arcs at a constant rate, does not have a highly acclaimed successful cartoon, can't headline strong successful video games that rivals the batman arkram asylum series and has no cultural impact outside of what rdj does. Yeah that was what Disney discovered when they tried to push as their batman and it all bombed.
he bombed even with disney power. xmen and spiderman do that with ease, they did it for decades, reason both have had incredibly longevity and iron man will never have any. add also xmen and spiderman had highly successful independent movies thanks to fox and sony. they did not needed to be lumped into a cinematic universe like iron man. reason he will never been seen as true A -Lister. Dr Doom and Mr fantastic are still more of an a-lister(s) with 3 'bad' movies than iron man ever will be.
You chose GOTG the most cartoonish of all mcu movies that even makes Frozen look more adult orientated? What is your deal?lol. Kids go to see GOTG. When they are older they will see Logan, X2 and DOFP and realize that there are real comic films out where , that do not dance around in front of villains and not everything is about colors, cgi and silly jokes. One of the many Reason xmen has had huge longevity for 60 years that not even freaking Disney could kill them off. Disney can kill gotg all they need to do is stop making their movies and baby groot toys. they have nothing to fall back on like spiderman or xmen.
DOFP killed winter reception because it is better movie. Feige even kind of indirectly admitted it when he praised DOFP in 2014 with winter solider fairly out (not good) or was that just fiege and is sick obsession with xmen? You tell me.
Not that big in box office but dofp made more worldwide right? And with a sex scandal that did hurt the movie. Apocalypse is a bad movie and since xmen movies are not pampered by the critics and the media the movie does not get a pass like age of ultron. Civil war made 1 billion as avengrs 2.5 , more cross over marvel movies, still a flop from age of ultron. Iron man made 1.2 billion still an artistic flop compared to iron man 2.
When xmen hits a billion, which would have been easy with a hard reboot and competent director. it should be done TDK or LOTR style. Not avengers style that in a few years later the director will call HISown film half assed and say his best comic work is not avengers but his xmen novels, which usually does rank as one of the greatest comic books ever written and yes whedon said so before disney fired him.. John landis is not defending his son. He said what he said because it is true. David Fincher and the Selma director also implied the same thing about marvel.
x-men is not marvel.... not marvel-disney. its laughable to think logan, dofp, deadpool, legion is marvel in the midst of homecoming, thor 3, iron fist inhumans, defenders and gotg 2. Urgh. Just drop it.
DC is not failing, GOTG 2 is worse than justice league but since the media is the right arm of marvel studios they are anti anything not marvel.
X-Men and DC just have to work hard any good press.
MCU is popular to children and their ignorant fan base that has no clue of the real world we live in. if they were going strong, the next step will not be unnecessary cross over movies and to sniff life out of xmen and f4. X-Men should have remained separate.
Nolan indirectly said mcu movies were silly and they should not make a comparison to TDKR in 2012. He was bullied by the media marvel mafia to say sorry and he did then he bashed marvel again when he said dc movies should not have the goofy tone of mcu movies. In 2017 they asked him about marvel and DC, he implied he rather watch suicide squad than any marvel movie because he is a DC fan. Funny, go read what Nolan said about the earlier xmen movies and why he liked it so much, it everything mcu is not.. This is how you can tell how he truly feels about mcu movies, then please add his own friends like the cinematographer of most of his movies and the guy who played scarecrow. Both have said mcu is bs. it does not take a rocket scientist to know Nolan’s thoughts. He is just not bold enough like david ficnher who said mcu has poor story telling and is all about cgi.
Mangold is not trying to hold anything for fox. What mangold said about mcu is the same reason whedon or Egdar wright left ant man. There is no creative freedom and they all follow a formula. Mangold said mcu was nonsense long before Disney bought fox
So nate grey is your favorite character ever? Sinister’s best made, most tortured, hard to please, not trusting anyone , complicated unpredictable lab rat who is usually consumed by his powers. Wait till i tell you that he is not just far more interesting than iron man or any character in the mcu if you are a grown up who does not like simple comic stories and characters , then We will see how much of your favourite character he is. when you start bashing him and start telling me he sucks. lol.
Best part and now worst part about nate grey? Disney will never make movie about him. Or they will just make it stupid comedy. Fox could have easily made a great movie about him if they hired a character study director. no need for disney cgi big budget money. maybe an aoa dystopian point of view movie from nate grey’s perspective or the cable story line that deals with the theme of nature vs nuture.
This is why xmen is screwed now. We will never see movies like this again, we can't even dream of it,...all what we see is is cgi, toys and comedy, ask star wars fans after watching last jedi....so sad. So sad.