"Fox understood the X-Men more than Marvel ever will..."

"Fox understood the X-Men more than Marvel ever will..." Dec 28, 2017 4:30:52 GMT

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Post by Ecstasy on Dec 28, 2017 4:30:52 GMT

Dec 28, 2017 4:18:48 GMT Skaathar said:

Dec 28, 2017 4:12:58 GMT Ecstasy said:

Technically, there weren’t any X-Men until the very end of Apocalypse. The team you see in First Class isn’t officially the X-Men, just a group of mutants Chuck got together to fight Shaw. At the end of the film he shows no interest in forming a superhero team that Moria suggest. Even the filmmakers said that weren’t real X-Men but sort of a proto-version.

In regards to Mystique they were combining Xavier’s origin in the 616 with the Ultimate version. In the Ultimate version Mystique was the lover of Xavier but then later sided with Magneto after he crippled him(the plot of First Class). In the 616 Xavier had a fall out with his step-sibling Juggernaut and then exiled himself in the mansion(the plot of DOFP). In short, Mystique is met to be a set-in for Juggy.

There was no Phoenix in the First Class films either. The plot synopsis of Dark Phoenix confirms that wasn’t the Phoenix Force but Jean’s base power.

Uhuh... sure. That's a lot of uh... comic gymnastics to put those together. In the end though you just proved that the X-men movies have very little similarity with their source material. And that's considering that you're trying to not address all the older X-men movies prior to the latest trilogy... i.e. majority of their movies.

Marvel studios also practices these “comic gymnastics” of combining 616 with Ultimate in regards to the Avengers and Spider-Man. As for the older films X2 was the very first Marvel film to that. This is possibly due to Kevin Feige’s influence.

Its when the studio started to muddle with the projects is when we get massive shifts from the comics. In the case of X3, Origins, and possibly Apocalypse. In Apocalypse Wolverine was originally going to be the leader of the X-Men at the end of the film. There are mentionings of rewrites happening during filming which would probably explain why Wolverine is in and out of the movie.