There's no such thing as a loving God

There's no such thing as a loving God Mar 13, 2017 14:53:19 GMT looking4klingons likes this

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Post by general313 on Mar 13, 2017 14:53:19 GMT

Mar 12, 2017 2:26:31 GMT @miccee said:

Mar 12, 2017 0:59:32 GMT general313 said:

In your view, can we choose anything at all then, or is that an illusion? Is our fate predetermined (or at least at the whim of random indeterminacy in a quantum universe)?

I don't believe that free will is possible in the sense that it is traditionally understood. I think that either our choices are completely predetermined. I recently read an article about 'unexpected' decisions possibly being linked to quantum uncertainty, but even that wouldn't really be 'free' will, it would just be random will. Because we wouldn't be in control of the indeterminacy; the indeterminacy would be in control of us. Either way, I think that there is no doubt that free choice is an illusion. It's incoherent.

If there's no free will, then can there be culpability? Should we dispense with court trials because the defendant can always plea "well, I didn't really have any choice in the matter"? This seems to be sliding into solipsist territory.