There's no such thing as a loving God

There's no such thing as a loving God Mar 13, 2017 17:40:21 GMT

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Post by fatpaul on Mar 13, 2017 17:40:21 GMT

Mar 13, 2017 17:18:36 GMT CoolJGS☺ said:

Mar 13, 2017 16:56:54 GMT fatpaul said:

So okay, either your God knows hes got the juice but doesn't exercise it so he's a lazy deity. Or he doesn't know he's got the juice therefore, he's a fool who doesn't even know himself. The theological, not the atheistic, definition of omnipotence is that God is able to do all that is logically possible. This is an updated version of: God is able to do all. The updated version is alethic logic which answers the question of a too heavy rock for God to lift. These definitions were not made by atheists, they were made by theists and if so then why even mention anything about ability if not to use said ability. It sorta like bragging about it, don't you think?(God's got the juice but no show or tell!)

Again, this is simply a presumption you give for a condition that doesn't exist. God can be all powerful and use that power to ensure choice even if that choice is for the individual to do evil.

I think the biggest problem is that most people simply can't understand what it means to have even some power plus are used to be forced to do things against their will that it is hard for them to understand that allowing people to do things against your will when you have the power to stop it is a pretty good indicator of power.

However, the problem becomes even bigger because people not only think that God should be allowed to allow us to be evil, but he should stop the evil that we choose to do, PLUS we want to define evil instead of following God's definition.

It's a scam meant to box God into a bunch of silly requirements he was never obligated to follow in the first place.

It not so much as God being evil per se but whether he is powerful enough not to have evil as an option at all. Is evil something beyond his control? Freewill basically means: if free to do then free not to do. Given that we, supposedly God's creation, have this option, does God himself have this option in that he is free to do or not to do?

You say we mustn't presume the mind of God (I knew we'd end up here) then what makes, say your assumption about God more valid than mine, besides the fact that you believe and I don't?

If it is a scam as you say, to box God in, aren't you worried that the spirit of Patrick Swayze might come to us and say: nobody puts God in the corner?