There's no such thing as a loving God

There's no such thing as a loving God Mar 13, 2017 18:50:35 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 18:50:35 GMT

Mar 13, 2017 1:45:20 GMT CoolJGS☺ said:

Mar 12, 2017 15:55:35 GMT @miccee said:

There are many problems with this. Firstly, devoutly religious people suffer very badly in this world as well. Secondly, God has determined from the outset of the universe who is going to believe in him, and who is going to believe which branch of that theology.

If he had presented himself to all of us, and created a universe in which none need suffer even so much as a pinprick, then that would be a loving God.

It's true that everything that happens to wicked people could happen to righteous people. However there are two flaws to your premiseThat has nothing to do with love and you are mandating rules that are not in evidence.

1. This has nothing to do with God loving the righteous.
2. It requires mandates that are not in evidence nor should be expected. It's all well and good that ones think thy know what God should do for them, it's an entirely different matter to actually think it's something he should adhere to.

It's also annoying that people seem to think that just because there is suffering, that means everyone is suffering and miserable.

Most everyone's doing pretty OK

It has to do with God having created the conditions for harm and suffering, when you combine the fact that humans could not have willed harm into existence (especially not harms caused by the natural world, such as disease, extreme weather, drought, tsunamis, etc).

And "most everyone's doing pretty OK" is a myopic American perspective, when the majority of the people in the world struggle to live a hand-to-mouth existence. There is a lot of discontentment even in wealthy nations such as the US, and this is evidenced by social problems, crime and hatred/scapegoating of the poor.