There's no such thing as a loving God

Mar 14, 2017 8:58:28 GMT @miccee said:

Mar 13, 2017 20:50:50 GMT cupcakes said:

I only consider claims where evidence lies, not out of sheer want and inanity.  

What's kookoo-land is somebody believing their every move is pre-fated, yet having angst over what anybody else believes.   

Where's the evidence that humans can choose which thoughts to think before thinking them?

And why is it 'free will' when humans make a choice, but not when an insect or computer does.

And there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a causal factor in changing the beliefs of others, even if I am aware that I myself am caused to want to be a causal factor,

The fact that you are overthinking this is an indication of free will. Most people have other things to think about.

That said, animals are more driven by instinct although they do make choices.

Computers are limited to their programming.

There could be a case made that humans are only acting on what they are capable of doing, but there becomes the added category of complexity. If there are a million options to choose from as a fix set of programming or instinct, then maybe that number is what defines free will.