Joseph Gordon-levit's take on Luke and tlj

Joseph Gordon-levit's take on Luke and tlj Jan 18, 2018 0:51:45 GMT Nightman, ryboto, and 1 more like this

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Post by shinnickneth on Jan 18, 2018 0:51:45 GMT

Jan 18, 2018 0:34:13 GMT mcufan said:

Jan 18, 2018 0:15:22 GMT Waxer-n-boil said:

LOL! That's funny! (Just in case you're being serious, no am not that person). For the record I have no problem with strong female characters. But you don't have to transform the bulk of male characters into totally incompetent McGuffins to move the storyline forward; or to make your heroines appear that much more dynamic and absolutely competent.

It's lazy writing that screams an agenda. If you look at the heroes and heroines of the other trilogies, most of them were a mixture of competence and incompetence. But this trilogy: Hux, Luke, Finn (except at the end of each movie), Ackbar, even C3PO came off as incompetent. They were either useless or buffoons. A truly strong female character doesn't need her male counterparts transformed into totally inept people in order to shine. They can still shine and grab the spotlight while being surrounded by competent male characters.

I don't look at it as male vs female. If you think they are incompetent fine. They are incompetent people. The fact that they are male or female should be irrelevant. Apparently it is not. Rose is just as incompetent as Finn for instance ( in the sense that the plan fails). And Poe and Luke redeem themselves. Phasma is defeated, again, buy a guy. Heck the resistance is now led by a guy. Does chewie count? Lol

By the end of the movie all the males dominate the movie.

Your view is askew.

Poe was the leader of a mutiny. He should be in a detention block for his involvement. He's a terrible, treasonous soldier.

Luke did not redeem himself. He gave the Leia/the Resistance a map of his location, which went onto to get a lot of people killed including a whole village and one of his best friends, Han Solo. Why did Luke do this? We're unsure. Especially given the knowledge that he wants the Jedi to end and personally feels responsible for all the bad that has happened since Return of the Jedi. Even despite this, he feels compelled to leave a map. Then when someone finds him using that map, he then spends most of the movie treating that person like crap...then he dies using too much of the Force, completely forgetting the use of holograms...

The whole movie was stupid. The more I think about it, the more apparent it becomes that these cats in charge of the Star Wars franchise, don't know what they're doing. Nor did they have a plan.