If I were to become an atheist...

If I were to become an atheist... Jan 25, 2018 13:37:43 GMT

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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 25, 2018 13:37:43 GMT

Jan 25, 2018 12:41:35 GMT Eva Yojimbo said:

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1) I guess the answer to my question is that you're going to keep up with this nonsense in perpetuity, because what you said here ignored everything I said and is just repeating what you said earlier.

There's a lot of that going around.

2) Believing that the sun will rise/explode tomorrow are both beliefs that require faith, but one is rational and the other is irrational.

The last time you mentioned that I challenged you to show that more people of faith believe the sun will explode tomorrow than there are "scientists" who do. Where is that data?

3) I might as well quote Yudkowsky, " [ ... ... ] the point is that there are worldviews which try to minimize that imposition [of witch doctoring], and worldviews which glory in it.

Aha, well chosen words, more or less what I live for these days. Why can't you see that is my point though? I actually agree with everything you say about science. The only glitch is that mine is science and yours is not.

Most of the confusion lately comes from using statistical analysis, which I have explained is not the same as the "science" that deserves your accolades. I have studied both and made excellent grades in both. I know whereof I speak. Amateurs note differences in data so small that it only shows up after twenty years then try to dictate which factor caused the change. That is not science. Way too many things change way too much in twenty years to say which "one" factor is responsible. The science you mean to applaud eliminates other factors in order to correctly identify the effects of the one factor of interest. That is ordinarily impossible in statistical analysis scenarios in the news. Do you think the sea will rise drastically tomorrow? It might, you just don't why yet.

if you expect an invisible dragon to heal your daughter of cancer

The "invisible dragon" of religion does not use the power of the state to force you at gunpoint to pay for its medical treatments. The invisible dragon of false science shouldn't do that either, but it does. Medical costs are insanely high and it is because people continue to believe in false science.