Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 26, 2018 15:32:50 GMT
Was there law against it? No, there was no law against a pre-pubescent girl being married off. .
So no evidence. Gotcha.
So no evidence. Gotcha.
History and historical texts are plain enough on this subject. For instance the rabbis in the Mishnah declare that a girl may be legally betrothed by intercourse as early as age three (Niddah 5:4). The age that a boy can contract a valid marriage appears to be age nine (Niddah 5:5 and other passages), even if extremes were largely hypothetical. Can you show me a law which proscribes child marriages, either in the Bible or Jewish history of the times? The Roman age of consent was apparently only 12. I hope that helps.
Actually you were [defending Islam]. You jumped into this thread specifically to point out to me how much more reliable the Islamic message is to the bible's.
I only pointed out the difference in the respective sources of the Bible and the Qu'ran. So your misrepresentation is a straw man. Personally I would think something which was dictated to one man was likely to be more accurate than that which was 'inspired' over a long time, to many - then edited and interpolated, then ultimately given final form by a committee. But both the Qu'ran, (for which there is no critical edition and which is more of a non-linear jumble that the Xian book) and Bible have their problems and I defend neither of their doctrines. I note though that you did not disagree with the fact that Muslims see Allah and Jehovah as one and the same.
Then you attempted to shamefully justify Muhammad's pedophilic marriage with a straw man by trying to compare it to biblical marriages where girls got married at young ages. When challenged to bring evidence the best you could muster was "well there was no law against it".
That's because there was indeed no law against it and young marriage was possible in biblical times. Just because with have an issue with it today does not mean it was not happening then even if not common. I am sorry you missed my late edit about Aisha (the wife in question) above. You may wish to check it out.
A personal attack is not an argument
As I said this is not a defence of Islam, merely setting things in an historical context. I actually posted here a while ago (or on the old board) a critical thread about what are in effect Qu'ran textual variants and associated problems with a range of interpretation according to differing readings. Looks like you missed that.
Is your hatred for Christianity that strong that you have to side with a religion so at odds with every principle you pretend as leftist to stand for? To the point where you feel the need to justify its 50 year old founder sleeping with a little girl.
I certainly hold no candle for Islam, so don't fret. But do for fairness in representation. So, see above about Mohammed's wife. There is no certainty of her age, so give your unpleasant and noxious claims around paedophilia a rest. Do I claim your Christ was gay since he never married, was keen on love, not war and had a lot of close men friends?

