Post by cupcakes on Feb 11, 2018 0:47:07 GMT
tpfkar
Feb 11, 2018 0:16:44 GMT @miccee said:
I just pointed out that their "mind" changed. Not for anything you "chose" to do. And I pointed out directly that I understand that, according to your beliefs, you have absolutely no choice but to appear absolutely irrational in your thinking, as the gods of the Great Clack pre-destined since (before?)(the beginning of?) time. Just as by your beliefs I was pre-determined to mock the hilarity of the "thinking". 
Things only ever happening one way is not controversial. That's how it should go anywhere but in shattered-mind land.
Morally I would be fine with post-birth abortions, but I realise that this would probably be too radical to ever be implemented.
Clearly the fact that there is only one choice available is controversial, given that I'm not sure whethe you accept that as the truth, and it is clear that the theists you've been indulging with their belief in free will believe that God gave them the ability NOT to be limited to just one possible choice at any given juncture. It's clear that, to them, free will means something more than the ability to choose the only option available to them as a consequence of a long chain of causality.
Who like any Jim Jonesian, Heavens Gater, or Branch Dividian wants to die but is so narcissistic he wants to take the world with him. And forcefully violate women on the way. So of course your "mystery and sanctity" is just projection like any aggrieved Christian falls back on. There's no "mystery and sanctity" with "get it while you can before you're dirt". But of course you're in such awe and worship that you ascribe all good things including valuing life as only coming from religion. You haven't dropped your procreation worship, you just mirror-imaged and got even more wacko with it.Nope, things only happening one way, much like us part & parcel of the cause and effect, is the the only thing rational and coherent, as opposed to your "choosing" to furiously attempt to get others to "choose" while simultaneously holding that real choice doesn't exist, or your demands for infinite regression to be a part of free will, your comical "imposition" of birthing and letting them decide but not of force-terminating by your own bloodlust, your delusion that your morals come from an Objective but the morals of athei-, whoops, I mean sane people who want to experience while things last and not mass murder everybody are just subjective. And of course the whole poison the atmosphere nuke the world teenage goth anarchist psychopath dreams.
Cause & effect is what we're part of and do with our free will.
Making choices according to our preferences & who we are every day all day long. Regardless of your morbid pathetic mousy-murderous needs.Moreover, it may be possible to spray a chemical in the world's air, or add something to the water supply that would prevent women from becoming pregnant. It wouldn't be necessary to ban sex. Alternatively, we could develop an AI that would peacefully and swiftly wipe out all sentient organisms on Earth, perhaps by releasing some kind of toxin into the air.