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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 23:59:36 GMT
tpfkar But of course, you miss out the crucial part where you start channeling the Pope to dictate that people shouldn't be empowered to exercise contol over their own existence by being assisted to opt out if they determine that the suffering isn't worth it. Because if it weren't for what was causing them to want to die, they wouldn't want to die and we have to protect people from harm by forcing them to endure harm and making sure that they can't avoid being harmed. If there's only one choice you can make, that's not free. Especially when, because of the perspective from which you're inexorably approaching the choice, that one choice is frequently harmful to your own wellbeing and that of others. No, I didn't miss the part where you're a religious wacko projecting wildly. Wanting to forcefully violate countless and kill everyone for your death cult, even the other deranged, as opposed to supporting them to get through their illness. You even called successful treatment for them "brainwashing". And of course your really truly sane brilliance that killing someone instantly by putting a bullet into their brain not is "harming" them. And your further "libertarian" care for the mentally ill of wishing to make them available for sexual mutilation and as human meals for predators, as long as the mentally ill "assent" to it. And regardless of the ridiculousness of your patent illogic, even if one stipulated free will via some magic or another like your Great Objective, things would still only happen one way. Does Free Will Exist?You did gloss over the religious dimension to your own beliefs. "Get it while you can before you're dirt" doesn't imply anything about an overreaching government placing restrictions on one's freedom to seek out an end to one's existence, which may include involving consenting third parties who are willing to offer their services and products in order to ease the process along. So what you're responding with is a strawman argument, because as you know, I don't have any problem with the "get it while you can before you're dirt" part. And I've always maintained that free will, in any meaningful sense, would be logically impossible under any scenario that could be imagined by the human mind.
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