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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 17:34:57 GMT
tpfkar "Existing independently" is more pure irrelevancy.  And I know, you want the mentally ill available for fellow-minded psychopaths to sexually mutilate, cannibalize, and gut, just as long as the mentally ill person "says that they wish" it.  It's only considered "coercion" to help the deranged, and "brainwashing" to successfully treat the mentally ill, by those pathetic abusive wholly narcissistic bloodthirsty psychopaths who teenage-goth-anarchist fantasize of mas violating women and mass-murdering countless. And now your rabid religious self rattling on about "authoritarian".  And I've admitted that a lot of your demented ideas are demented. I'm arguing that "go at it until you're dirt", and "don't harm, especially the mentally ill" are good things, and of course mass-violation of women, mass murder, and patent irrationality among many other things you advocate are baaad things.
They could refrain from imposing on others, or be sterilised to prevent them from doing so.It's relevant to the fact that you're claiming that a mentally ill person's request to die doesn't reflect their actual feelings, regardless of how many times they repeat it with conviction. And you've just ignored the question about whither this 'value' derives that you wish to conserve. "Don't harm, especially the mentally ill" leaves the person vulnerable to the harm that they want to escape and only 'harms' them from the perspective of those who will not be the ones receiving the treatment. There's no justification why the 'harm' as others perceive it should be considered more important than the harm that the patient is actually enduring and will continue to endure. "Actual feelings" and rational wants outside of the illness are two different things. People derive "value" from all manners of subjective sources. Personally I don't like pathetic, narcissistic crazies trying to curtail peoples chances to experience this one short time period, based on the morbid psychopath's personal first-world miseries. And I'm empathetic in that if I became deranged I'd certainly like to be helped and not killed upon derangement or great stress and upset. And there's no justification for your absurd redefinition of countless words. 
Violence in this case would be the imposition of needs, wants and the potential for suffering by way of the creation of new life. |
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