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Post by 🌵 on Mar 16, 2017 16:25:32 GMT
Most of the atheists and agnostics that I know, including myself, do not really care one way or the other whether there is a creator. There are certainly some atheists/agnostics who strongly dislike the idea that the universe has a creator. I think Christopher Hitchens described at least the Christian God as a "cosmic dictator" or a "cosmic North Korea" or something along those lines (I'm not sure how he felt about non-interventionist, deistic deities; maybe he didn't find those so bad). But in my own experience, that kind of attitude is rare. Indeed, a lot of atheists/agnostics that I know say that they'd prefer it if there were a god. They find the idea of god comforting, but just don't see any reason to believe it. Yet again when atheists complain about religion it's "Christianity." That is not a religion. It does illustrate the point I made about how the art of religion is lost. Remember > The concept of religion most people have is of a "Christianity" that has no discipline at all and only exists to antagonize government that is the only thing keeping any order. That is of course a totally wrong view of religion. Religion is the foundation of good discipline, not government.
I think the overwhelming majority of atheists very much do not want there to be a creator. I think that has an effect on the others like you (if you are what you say). It makes it appear that "everyone scientific" doesn't see any reason to believe in a creator, and that isn't true. The evidence is very strong for an intelligent designer and has been for decades. I go so far as to say it's proved. Obviously Christianity is a religion per any standard use of the term "religion". Anyway, that was just an example of an atheist who expressed dislike of the idea of a creator. Since I'm only aware of his comments on the Christian god, that was all I could speak about. I simply attempting to acknowledge that it is true that at least some atheists, as you suggest, do not want to believe in a creator. Surely if most atheists were motivated by the desire for there not to be a creator, that would make them appear unscientific? Standardly, science tends to be associated with the attempt to evaluate evidence in an unemotional, unbiased way; to "follow the evidence wherever it leads", even if to conclusions that are found uncomfortable. (This is not to say that this is how scientists actually behave, just that this is how they are generally perceived to behave.)
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