There's no such thing as a loving God

There's no such thing as a loving God Mar 16, 2017 23:42:46 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:42:46 GMT

Mar 16, 2017 23:30:30 GMT cupcakes said:

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You can name it whatever you want, I'll just stick with "free will", and with the description of disingenuous tendentious pap for the version you pretend with. And you're a silly liar. I've never argued anything other than that beings making choices based on who they are and the characteristics they have, and that ultimate culpability is a separate and related topic. Multiple times, explicitly, with you. And I don't care about religion, your permanent disability, unless I'm actually discussing the various myths and immoralities. Your need to kill free will so that you can slay the dragon religious simply drives you to emulate the other apologists' expedient tactics.

You can over-assert and special plead all you like, it will ever be the transparently political positions of the comically illogical zealot.

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You've been arguing in favour of a brand of free will that isn't quite libertarian free will, but not quite compatibilistic free will either. It's a type of free will that has been very vaguely defined and which you have failed to explain how it is meaningfully free. It may not be coerced by another agent, but it is constrained by one's own desires, predisposition, etc. You've also denied that my version of free will is the commonly accepted definition. To quote from the article posted:

Libertarian free will means that our choices are free from the determination or constraints of human nature and free from any predetermination by God. All "free will theists" hold that libertarian freedom is essential for moral responsibility, for if our choice is determined or caused by anything, including our own desires, they reason, it cannot properly be called a free choice. Libertarian freedom is, therefore, the freedom to act contrary to one's nature, predisposition and greatest desires. Responsibility, in this view, always means that one could have done otherwise.

This is the type of free will that is needed by Christians in order to exculpate God from the existence of evil/suffering in the world.