Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 25, 2018 23:03:23 GMT
My first thought with the suggestion of giving Gideon a physical form was Rommy on Andromeda as well. There's certainly some potential in having an android on the team, but I'm ambivalent about it. They have so many characters they don't know what to do with as it is.
It also does make me think a bit about Red Dwarf too; Gideon is basically Holly, and giving her a body would make her something short of Kryton. Especially when you consider how Kryton took over a lot of the exposition duties, reducing Holly's relevance in the show.
Gideon is such a dues ex machina though. Snart loses a hand, and she can rebuild it; someone ends up in a coma or badly injured, she can effortlessly treat them and bring them back from almost anything (except contract renewals, apparently...); she can eve feed a simulated reality that she controls into someone's mind and make them believe whatever she likes.
As I noted in another thread, I'd much prefer to see her go bad; or turn out to have been bad the whole time, and in actuality have been manipulating the so-called legends to do her bidding.
I'd hate to see Rip killed off; though sadly for no inherent reason related to anything seen on the show. While I didn't have a very deep familiarity with the character's full comic book history, I was a very big fan of the comic book series that paired him up with Booster Gold, who
Rip Hunter is supposed to be methodical and extremely intelligent, while the fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants approach and often looking like a prat would be typical of Constantine; especially in his Justice League Dark stories. The lies, the selfishness, the plans that regularly backfire... the accent (more or less)... all par for the course for John Constantine. And this motley crew would have make more sense chasing monsters and demons in a house with a literal mind of its own would have beat to hell the idea of them mucking about in time without consequence. You wouldn't even have to change the stories; Vnadal Savage and past lives, the "legion" and the spear of destiny, Mullus - you don't need a time machine for any of that; not really.
Would that have made the standards of the writing more palatable? I honestly don't know, but it kind of feels like it might have; especially considering that the stories aren't strictly pure garbage, but more often are just sort of half a bubble off what they could be to make them better.
On the other hand, you have Sara and John having sex during the middle of a mission for no other reason than they simply couldn't keep it in their pants for five minutes.
It also does make me think a bit about Red Dwarf too; Gideon is basically Holly, and giving her a body would make her something short of Kryton. Especially when you consider how Kryton took over a lot of the exposition duties, reducing Holly's relevance in the show.
Gideon is such a dues ex machina though. Snart loses a hand, and she can rebuild it; someone ends up in a coma or badly injured, she can effortlessly treat them and bring them back from almost anything (except contract renewals, apparently...); she can eve feed a simulated reality that she controls into someone's mind and make them believe whatever she likes.
As I noted in another thread, I'd much prefer to see her go bad; or turn out to have been bad the whole time, and in actuality have been manipulating the so-called legends to do her bidding.
I'd hate to see Rip killed off; though sadly for no inherent reason related to anything seen on the show. While I didn't have a very deep familiarity with the character's full comic book history, I was a very big fan of the comic book series that paired him up with Booster Gold, who
turned out to be Rip's father.
I'm also a fan of Arthur Davill, even if everything about him and how his version of Rip would have been better suited if he were simply Constantine. Nothing against Matt, I watched his original series, and it was good, but just by virtue of how they've written Rip to date, simply changing him from Rip Hunter to Constantine would have, in my opinion, profound implications on the character and his behavior. Rip Hunter is supposed to be methodical and extremely intelligent, while the fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants approach and often looking like a prat would be typical of Constantine; especially in his Justice League Dark stories. The lies, the selfishness, the plans that regularly backfire... the accent (more or less)... all par for the course for John Constantine. And this motley crew would have make more sense chasing monsters and demons in a house with a literal mind of its own would have beat to hell the idea of them mucking about in time without consequence. You wouldn't even have to change the stories; Vnadal Savage and past lives, the "legion" and the spear of destiny, Mullus - you don't need a time machine for any of that; not really.
Would that have made the standards of the writing more palatable? I honestly don't know, but it kind of feels like it might have; especially considering that the stories aren't strictly pure garbage, but more often are just sort of half a bubble off what they could be to make them better.
On the other hand, you have Sara and John having sex during the middle of a mission for no other reason than they simply couldn't keep it in their pants for five minutes.