Can WB create a successful DC franchise before its too late?

Can WB create a successful DC franchise before its too late? Mar 26, 2018 16:47:04 GMT

Quote

Post by ThatGuy on Mar 26, 2018 16:47:04 GMT

Mar 26, 2018 15:46:49 GMT Tristan's Journal said:

Mar 26, 2018 15:07:53 GMT ThatGuy said:

"Inventing" something doesn't mean you are the best at it. Someone invented the horse and carriage, but the car is better.

This is a straw man and beside the point. And lol, it's a very silly and invalid analogy - the analogy is more DC invented modern fast food franchising, and MCU are currently running the most profitable junk food chain.

But yes, DC have invented the modern blockbuster CBM (with Superman, then Batman), and they also have the CBMs held in the highest regards by the general public. Just check the relevant popularity charts like IMDB (even now with MCU peaking the DC films are higher lol, what will happen when the bubble bursts?) or all the "Best CBM trilogy/CBM" charts.

Also, The MCU pushed CBMs beyond the CBM genre.

LOL, only in your fantasy. Generally, these films are considered forumalic CBM junk food sticking closely to their comic book roots. The films that push were Nolan, Logan, Watchmen or WW but certainly not MCU.

Wonder Woman is an anomaly. Curse breaker? What curse did it break?

Jesus, you are being deliberately obtuse? How about first ever successful female-led CBM? The few before were huge flops on all levels. That is curse breaking for you.

And the 2nd worse DCEU movie won an Oscar for make up. When the win for something that means anything then you can talk.

Cry me a salty river, pal. If you don't care about Oscars, what about beting every MCU movie this year at the prestigeous Critics Choice Award 2017 or at AFI (Movie of thr Year) etc? Sure that would mean something to you if MCU movies would have won, lol.

DC is not a multiverse.

Yes it is. It has currently several variation of the same character, eg. DCEU Supes, Arrowverse Supes, Animated Universe Supes etc. Not to speak of all the past manifestations.

The Arrowverse is a multiverse.

No it is not. This is a shared universe, like MCU.

They will never connect those shows to any of the movies.

That is indicated by the term "multiverse", genius.

Nah I like my analogy better. DC had the template, but it is better now. Much better. I mean, they self-destruct every time. Can you honestly say that DC can get past 2 movies in a series being good? Superman crashed after the 1st movie and had to bring in a new director that sucked when he did his own movie (3). Hell, Even Superman Returns was the new Superman 3 and that failed to get a sequel. Batman crashed at Batman Returns. TDKR was not well received so that made it to 2. All other DC movies crashed and burned at the 1st movie. No sequels for those. DC has no clue what they are doing.

In the MCU, CBM is a subgenre. That's what I mean by moved past being CBMs.

Wait, so it's a curse to suck as a movie and not believe in it? If they put into a female led movie that they put into the male led movies, then female led movies would have been good long ago.

Don't care about any of the awards either way. I mean, one of the MCU movies got an effects nomination and I didn't care when I saw it. An award does nothing for me because I didn't work on the movie and I wouldn't be getting it.

If that is the case then everything that has a reboot is a multiverse. All the animated series and live action shows in the Marvel universe are a part of a multiverse. That's not how it works.

The Arrowverse is a multiverse. They actually do the 52 Earths. Only the shows themselves are a shared universe, but they have different universes in that world.

Don't know what a multiverse is do you?