Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 4:27:17 GMT
tpfkar
Mar 30, 2018 1:23:17 GMT @miccee said:
You're missing the point with Jack Kevorkian and Philip Nitschke (whom you omitted to mention). Philip Nitschke is the director of Exit International; an organisation which publishes a guide to suicide which is updated every 3 months, and of which I am a subscriber. I've read through the entire thing and not only does the 'trivially easy', painless and risk-free method without drugs not appear in the document, but if such a means existed and was widely known about, it would make the document redundant. As Philip Nitschke believes that the right to die should be universal and that people shouldn't have the right to bodily autonomy only in very rare, circumscribed conditions in which they are about to die anyway, I've no reason to believe that he would withhold this information on purpose. So that really only leaves you with the theory that someone who has gone through medical school and practiced medicine for many years is still somehow so ignorant of how the human body works that even they don't know about this method. And Jack Kevorkian's patients were mostly able bodied, even if terminally ill. So they would have also been able to do this trivially easy and risk-free act themselves, in most cases.I've never made any statement about impositions to the non-existent. Once a foetus is conceived, it exists, and if allowed to be born, it will develop the capacity to feel imposed upon with the burdens of maintaining an unasked-for existence.
Absolutely mind-blowing that those that support it support it, who would have ever thunkit. You must be trembling with something or another. Crazy that the guys who have an agenda breeze over the basic end-arounds to their lines. And as many times run over, people do of course have the right to die; they can't practically be stopped if they don't exhibit signs of mental illness. That doesn't mean Nembutal for all and the vulnerable be damned, and who cares about the murderous youtube psychopaths about. You have yapped about the impositions on the nonexistent continuously, always yabbering about what they don't need. And sterilization ain't for fetuses, my whacked-out brothah. But mental illness is still a terrible thing.
And to add to this, the people who give birth are the ones who are sentencing people to death in the first place
"Vulnerable be damned" means forcing the vulnerable to be tortured by their vulnerabilities with no recourse except 'treatments' that have already been tried and failed. It doesn't mean offering them the peaceful and humane end to their suffering that they have requested in no uncertain terms. But in your valuation system, suffering is meaningless and death is the only consideration, so an end to conscious experience where harm cannot be experienced is somehow the most harmful outcome of all, even when this is what the person concerned expressly wished for and was desperate to bring about.
What the non-existent don't need isn't saying anything about impositions on the non-existent, it is stating that they can't be imposed upon and it isn't a condition from which anybody needs to be rescued.