Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 1:10:32 GMT
tpfkar
Apr 4, 2018 1:35:25 GMT @miccee said:
I would never have advocated for keeping Terri Schaivo alive, or denying people the right to state assisted suicide for any reason that they saw fit. If you agree that there are fates worse than death, but yet wish to deny death to those suffering chronically with severe mental illness issues, then it is a failure of empathy that (in part, at least) informs your views on the issue of assisted suicide. Very much like the arch conservatives who want to abolish any kind of welfare safety net because they can't imagine how it could be so hard to get a job which pays enough on which to survive.And whichever one of us gets our wishes, vast populations are going to die off en masse. If you get your wishes, vastly more people and animals will die off in total (most of them due to normal causes, and then the final generations will die off in an extinction), and they will likely die off in more pain and it will be more dragged out. So if you find the idea of death and mass extinction abhorrent, then it would make more sense to induce it as soon as possible in order to minimise the suffering that will be caused. In the context of an eternal universe, it makes near to no difference anyway, because the universe will continue for an infinitely long time after life becomes extinct in any case.
And she wasn't really "alive" in any case. And of course a mentally competent person can refuse any medical treatment. Even the "treatment" that you support that puts them down even when they are scratching and kicking against it because you say they are mentally incompetent to decide to change their minds.We can't feed the mental illness but treat it to diminish and ameliorate it's effects - that is the empathy. Not the empathy of force sterilizing woman, mass murdering populations, supporting other predators in their "right" to sexually cannibalize and butcher the mentally ill if they can get the poor victims to assent. Very much like the serial killers and mass murderers throughout history, many found within the ranks of your sister religions. And the sane strive to make things continually better for all, not go on mad abuse and extermination sprees.
And I don't know what we'll be able to do with the populations. I know your AI savior has revealed all to you ::winkwink::
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"
Nobody's suggesting feeding the mental illness, or not making treatment available. Empathy is not to impose on them what you think is best, based on your perspective. Empathy means trying to understand what it would be like to be another person and understanding that their values may be different from yours and that valuing life differently is not a 'derangement'.