Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 12:33:08 GMT
What I don't agree with is that the Berlantiverse Supergirl HAS to be the same character as the comics, or is intended to BE the same character.
I agree the TV version shouldn't be like her comic version or needs to be for it to work, I do however think Deb's gripe to a degree is a valid one in that the one thing she shouldn't be same with Green Arrow is that they shouldn't be portrayed as the misinformed idea most general audiences have of the characters prior to the shows, ie Green Arrow shouldn't be Batman with a Robin Hood fetish nor should Supergirl be Superman just in a skirt.
I mean sure they shows take baby steps away from that as we go along but both shows are basically formed on that premise because these shows are clearly stand ins for the bigger IP's DC is holding off for the big screen, but the shows should be making greater strides to turn the heroes into more in line with their source material as we go along, atleast personality wise even if for Supergirl it's only for a short time as clearly for a CW show aimed at a younger female demo having Supergirl be borderline psychotic is not something that can fly for long.
I don't think the building a team around her hurts the show really it's more about how it's handled that matters, much like in Flash where to justify the team they have to constantly deemphasise Barry and his abilities Supergirl has the same issue, instead of diminishing your hero to make their cohorts be useful simple embellish the villains to where it makes sense the hero needs back up.
Basically if the show was of a higher quality then the same set up would work fine because it's the quality of the stories that are at fault not so much the framework for the stories, Arrow is a great example of this the same things happen in s1 & 2 as they did in later seasons but the quality was up to snuff in those earlier seasons so the things like Felicity being Deus Ex Hachina, the team arguing with Oliver, Felicity being petty and self involved, and so on weren't an issue at the time because we were enjoying the show more.
So basically even if the gave as a Supergirl in story elements, plot set ups, genre tropes and so on Deb would want the show would still be iffy because the people writing it would fuck it up regardless.
Well, I don't think the show needs to be exactly like the 'Supergirl' comic books for it to work either but what I would like to see is some basic resemblance of the character they are adapting which we don't see at all. It is all Superman and not Supergirl and is Supergirl in name only and that is one of the main problems I have had with a number of characters in the Arrowverse including Green Arrow, The Black Canary, Anarky, Prometheus and Doctor Alchemy but 'Supergirl' goes further to be a 'Superman' TV show with a female lead right down to the glasses, the geeky personality, working at a newspaper and even copying the ending of the pilot of 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman' where Clark confronts Lex with Kara confronting Maxwell Lord. At least with the Green Arrow while he might be more like Batman than he is in the comic books but they did keep a number of elements from the comic books and have had Green Arrow characters and villains. We are only getting some Supergirl villains from the comic books like Reign now and we have yet to have Comet, Power Girl or Twilight but have had a HEAP of Superman characters like James Olsen, Lucy Lane, Lena Luthor, Cat Grant, Maxwell Lord, Morgan Edge and even Martian Manhunter. Either way I completely agree with you about the writers fucking it up regardless and the writers have long been a problem with these shows.
