Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 18:53:34 GMT
Apr 20, 2018 1:10:17 GMT @miccee said:
OK, I think I understand your reasoning. Sparing consideration for those who are less fortunate than you is a hallmark of borderline personality disorder, and I ought to seek out 'treatment' so that I can come round to your 'right' way of thinking that 'as long as I get what I want, it doesn't matter who else is stuck having to pay the cost'.Life is not 'torture' for me. It's an onerous imposition, but I manage it tolerably. Mostly because I'm relatively fortunate (in some ways) compared to many others. But I can't in good conscience ignore the fact that we're imposing catastrophically high costs on people who haven't consented to pay the bill. You think that my philosophy is an irrational reaction to 'cultural forces', but haven't stopped to question the heroic narrative that you have bought into whereby there's some need for us to keep creating more (infinitely precious) humans otherwise God will cry? That when you bring a child into the world, you're saving them from the torment of non-existence, and all the hazards that they will face are a small price to pay and that they should be thankful, even if they are born into a life of unremitting pain, toil, exploitation and hardship?

That Mic is apparently not suffering shows that my initial judgment was too charitable. Amelioration is about helping existent (or at least probable) life and creating conditions to reduce (or eliminate) likelihood of suffering to living things. Mic is twisting this concept and eliding any possible attempts to help life in favor of eliminating life (and thus any chance of meaning from what life has experienced so far.) The only people who would find this hopeless, dead universe appealing would be psychopaths.