Somebody Is Going to Die!!!

Somebody Is Going to Die!!! Apr 26, 2018 13:53:34 GMT

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Post by hardball on Apr 26, 2018 13:53:34 GMT

Apr 26, 2018 12:37:29 GMT @deblovesbeccy said:

Apr 21, 2018 12:48:13 GMT dazz said:

With Arrow though we had the same thing apart from Merlyn we didn't really get any GA villains except for VOTW types once or twice it's all more Batman than GA it seemed like.

My thing is I get them copying the more established mainstream characters to start but as the shows progressed we should get closer to faithful versions of the characters, you know use the better recognised counterpart copying to hook an audience then gradually show them what the character is meant to be.

As we are however 6 seasons into Arrow and apart from the odd comic accurate element he's still no where close to his comic counterpart so I wouldn't hold out too much hope for Supergirl, but I don't think a more comic accurate arc wouldn't hurt the series, it looked like we may have been getting that at the start of this season with Kara embracing being Kara Zor-El and rejecting Kara Danvers but it was too superficial and didn't last long enough, but it's also a reason why I think a LOSH arc would play great, as they could embrace those parts of the character for a 4-6 episode run where what she does only impacts her personality wise but not in a continuity way, her going darker and violent in the 31st century or whatever wouldn't ruin Supergirl as a hero in the 21st century image wise, which is the one thing I think would hold the show back as how do you justify the people idolising Supergirl as a hero and role model if she's dropping pricks out the sky to go splat?

No excuses for Arrow however as whats the harm in letting Oliver be more goody goody every now & then?

You have a good point but with 'Arrow' they have had more Green Arrow villains like Brick, Drakon, China White, Hannibal Bates, Cupid, Count Vertigo and Richard Dragon (who although didn't start out as a Green Arrow has appeared in quite a few Green Arrow comic books) apart from Merlyn and that is more than they have had on 'Supergirl' and if they use Lady Shiva she was a character that appeared in a number of Green Arrow comic books apart from 'Batman', 'Batgirl' and 'Birds Of Prey' and she actually made her debut in the Richard Dragon comic books. I think there are a lot of elements copied from Batman though and Oliver is more like Batman than Green Arrow which is why it is odd they got rid of Queen Industries since it is another similar Oliver has in common with Batman in the comic books with Wayne Enterprises. With Green Arrow though he was already established on 'Smallville' and was one of the most popular characters on that show. I mean 'Arrow' was originally meant to be for Justin Hartley until they decided to change it so I am surprised they didn't go with something a lot closer to that version than Batman.

I am not going to hold on too much for 'Supergirl' 'cause I sadly don't think the show will ever become like it is supposed to be which is why I have more faith in a movie version doing that since a movie adaption would be more likely to differentiate itself from the TV show and kick all the super friends out just like 'The Flash' movie is very likely not to have Cisco, Caitlin, Joe or Harry. Personality wise I can't see Kara changing in the TV show now 'cause they humanised her too much having her grow up on earth instead of waking up around the age of 18 but I think they should still have more proper Supergirl characters and villains and bring in more of the Horror elements and with 'DC's Legends of Tomorrow' having demons now there is no reason why 'Supergirl' can't have more of the Horror villains.

Agree that having Kara grow up on Earth was a mistake. Adjusting to life on earth, its people, culture, ways, etc would have made for a more interesting backstory. Instead we have her acting like any young adult rather than that of an alien torn between protecting this world and looking for acceptance among its inhabitants.

Regarding the use of Superman characters rather than those of the Supergirl comics, the writers are probably focused on the general audience. I would venture that most people who watch the show don't read comics and don't know who Supergirl is. To the average viewer, Supergirl is a female version of Superman, and for better or worse that is what the writers are giving the audience.