I Honestly Don't Get Transgender

Mar 22, 2017 19:48:30 GMT @graham said:

Mar 22, 2017 17:02:37 GMT ArArArchStanton said:

I realize this might offend some, but I mean to express that I honestly don't understand the support of being transgender.

I am a humanist, I support the ideas of freedom and life in general, and I fully support and completely understand the nature and lifestyle of gays and lesbians without question. I wish them all the happiness in the world and embrace them.

Apparently this is true until they do something you don't agree with.

Thing is, you either support people's freedom to be who they feel they are, or you don't. Saying "I support it up to a point" is just a roundabout way of saying you don't actually support other people's freedom.

But being transgender is different. You're talking about not accepting what you are and trying to be something else. It's the opposite of why I support gay people. You're talking about surgery. You're talking about cutting off body parts to be something else. I really don't know how this isn't disturbing. Where is the line between that and a legitimate psychological problem?

That's one viewpoint. It's not one they have. I speak from personal experience, having known a couple of transgender (MtF) people.

To a transgender person, their male body is wrong. It feels alien to them. Much as you'd feel if I could transplant your brain into a woman's body. Would you be like "Oh, I'm a woman now, so I'll just get one with being a woman"? Of course not.

And this isn't some whim. Transgender people feel this so strongly and fundamentally that a great many of them wind up committing suicide if they are denied the chance to live as they want to live.

Now, I get that you don't agree with it or think it's right, for whatever reason. But it does no harm to you, so really, what's the big problem with just taking a live and let live approach?

Who isn't taking a live and let live approach?  I never understand why people like you always respond as though people like me are doing anything more than just asking a question and trying to understand.  Nobody is talking about passing laws.  Relax.

Your response saying I'm the one with the problem and only allow freedom up to a point, is missing the point.  If somebody thinks they are the reincarnation of Elvis you know full well you would feel they were crazy.  But when somebody feels they are a woman, you think I'm not supposed to even ask a question about it or else I'm the one in the wrong for asking it.  Please check your politically correct bullshit before responding.  Now, your analogy of putting my brain into a female body doesn't work at all because I've lived my whole live as a man, so yes, obviously it would feel alien.  That does not apply to somebody who has lived their whole life as a man and still feels that they are a woman.  So with that in mind can you help me understand why thinking you're elvis is crazy but thinking you're a woman shouldn't even be second guessed?