Post by mslo79 on Jun 2, 2018 21:21:21 GMT
mikef6
It's funny how liberals call us 'hateful' when they are pretty much anti-God (who is goodness itself) and support gravely immoral things like abortion etc etc. someone who can't even get a basic life issue like abortion right, will simply be backwards in many other areas because they put a persons "choice" higher than a persons right-to-life when, obviously, it should be the other way around.
they basically have to sugar coat a bad thing by labeling it pro-choice instead of what it really is, which is a life issue. someone who don't get that basic point will be blind in many other moral areas... hence, they support euthanasia/gay agenda etc. what's next, pedophiles? ; that pedophile comment might sound laughable now but they don't seem to have a end in sight for lowering morality as it slowly declines little-by-little with them as time passes (just look at the general moral decline of society in the past 100 years (hell, even 20-50 years or so)). so where does it end(?).
also, you say conservatism is 'hateful' etc but surely if it was truly that bad why do many Christians, who are trying to follow God, who is goodness itself, tend to think otherwise.
You can't see the difference here?
one artificially blocks creation of life (which turns sex from it's natural purpose, which is to create life, and twists it into a self gratification thing etc) while the other helps to give a person a chance to restore it. one is always bad(artificial birth control), even though it might not seem like it, and the other is not bad(fixing ED).
That's sorta expecting God to do everything. He wants us to make the right decision so we have to do our part by choosing to do the right thing even when we might not always like it etc. it's basically a test... will we choose sin etc or choose to do what's right? ; by us choosing to do what He wants, it's a act of love on our part toward Him.
basically many people just don't want any self-restraint when it comes to sex is the problem as they just want to be able to do whatever they want whenever they want. o well, people are going to be people it seems but it's not surprising since the sexual function is our most powerful urge and will be hardest to resist. but those who don't show any(or little) resistance to it, pretty much end up being a slave to it.
@jamesavalon
Exactly (NOTE: I am not saying all of them are hateful as the common liberal on the street is probably okay-ish (at least not a hateful person(this has to be obvious because if that were the case then at least half of the general public would be hateful/evil people and that's obviously not the case)) but those who got more power tend to be the more corrupt ones etc since they do have influence(negative) on society as they can push bad things and try to make them look good etc).
it's pretty obvious liberals are the backwards ones given all of the immoral things they support (like I always say, they are generally the ones opposed to God (since as a general guideline... atheist/liberal vs believer/conservative (I know that's not always the case but as a general guideline I think that's correct)) and when your opposed to God good things can't come from that in the long term). but it's funny how they always turn it around to make conservatives, who's political views are more inline with God, look like the "evil" ones. NOTE: I am not saying anyone is perfect, as I am sure both sides have their flaws(I imagine at times knowing what to do(as in doing what's right) is not always easy or clear cut etc), but at least get some of the basics right.
they are the ones who went off-the-rails as time passed and that don't seem to be ending anytime soon.
hell, it's like the more they (liberals/media) hate Trump, you can almost assume the more good he's doing. when they become silent(or offer praise) is when you got a problem. lol
but I suspect things tend to boil down to this for many people...
so you can easily apply that to many of the world who hate the church's teaching in moral areas like... abortion/euthanasia/gay agenda/birth control etc. they call it 'hateful' when they are the ones who oppose objective moral truth, especially in certain areas like I mentioned. some people just don't like any restraint whatsoever and they want to do whatever they want to do based on their personal 'feelings' about whether something is right or wrong but it does not always work that way simply because after the fall of Adam/Eve, humanity no longer see's things as they truly are. basically we are inclined toward sin since they fell. so some stuff that seems appealing is not always good etc. that's where the Catholic church comes into play to correct those things since it's the church Jesus Christ started and the one He guides.
Well, conservatism IS a hateful anti-people political philosophy that is dedicated to making the rich richer while tightly controlling the behavior of individuals, esp. of women and minorities and esp. in people's sex and love lives, e.g. denying birth control for women in healthcare plans but paying for men's ED medicine.
It's funny how liberals call us 'hateful' when they are pretty much anti-God (who is goodness itself) and support gravely immoral things like abortion etc etc. someone who can't even get a basic life issue like abortion right, will simply be backwards in many other areas because they put a persons "choice" higher than a persons right-to-life when, obviously, it should be the other way around.
they basically have to sugar coat a bad thing by labeling it pro-choice instead of what it really is, which is a life issue. someone who don't get that basic point will be blind in many other moral areas... hence, they support euthanasia/gay agenda etc. what's next, pedophiles? ; that pedophile comment might sound laughable now but they don't seem to have a end in sight for lowering morality as it slowly declines little-by-little with them as time passes (just look at the general moral decline of society in the past 100 years (hell, even 20-50 years or so)). so where does it end(?).
also, you say conservatism is 'hateful' etc but surely if it was truly that bad why do many Christians, who are trying to follow God, who is goodness itself, tend to think otherwise.
e.g. denying birth control for women in healthcare plans but paying for men's ED medicine.
You can't see the difference here?
one artificially blocks creation of life (which turns sex from it's natural purpose, which is to create life, and twists it into a self gratification thing etc) while the other helps to give a person a chance to restore it. one is always bad(artificial birth control), even though it might not seem like it, and the other is not bad(fixing ED).
My feeling is: if pregnancy is god's will, so is a limp dick.
That's sorta expecting God to do everything. He wants us to make the right decision so we have to do our part by choosing to do the right thing even when we might not always like it etc. it's basically a test... will we choose sin etc or choose to do what's right? ; by us choosing to do what He wants, it's a act of love on our part toward Him.
basically many people just don't want any self-restraint when it comes to sex is the problem as they just want to be able to do whatever they want whenever they want. o well, people are going to be people it seems but it's not surprising since the sexual function is our most powerful urge and will be hardest to resist. but those who don't show any(or little) resistance to it, pretty much end up being a slave to it.
@jamesavalon
Now I think liberals are hateful. I think it might have something to do with their violently attacking people.
Exactly (NOTE: I am not saying all of them are hateful as the common liberal on the street is probably okay-ish (at least not a hateful person(this has to be obvious because if that were the case then at least half of the general public would be hateful/evil people and that's obviously not the case)) but those who got more power tend to be the more corrupt ones etc since they do have influence(negative) on society as they can push bad things and try to make them look good etc).
it's pretty obvious liberals are the backwards ones given all of the immoral things they support (like I always say, they are generally the ones opposed to God (since as a general guideline... atheist/liberal vs believer/conservative (I know that's not always the case but as a general guideline I think that's correct)) and when your opposed to God good things can't come from that in the long term). but it's funny how they always turn it around to make conservatives, who's political views are more inline with God, look like the "evil" ones. NOTE: I am not saying anyone is perfect, as I am sure both sides have their flaws(I imagine at times knowing what to do(as in doing what's right) is not always easy or clear cut etc), but at least get some of the basics right.
they are the ones who went off-the-rails as time passed and that don't seem to be ending anytime soon.
hell, it's like the more they (liberals/media) hate Trump, you can almost assume the more good he's doing. when they become silent(or offer praise) is when you got a problem. lol
but I suspect things tend to boil down to this for many people...
"If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979)
so you can easily apply that to many of the world who hate the church's teaching in moral areas like... abortion/euthanasia/gay agenda/birth control etc. they call it 'hateful' when they are the ones who oppose objective moral truth, especially in certain areas like I mentioned. some people just don't like any restraint whatsoever and they want to do whatever they want to do based on their personal 'feelings' about whether something is right or wrong but it does not always work that way simply because after the fall of Adam/Eve, humanity no longer see's things as they truly are. basically we are inclined toward sin since they fell. so some stuff that seems appealing is not always good etc. that's where the Catholic church comes into play to correct those things since it's the church Jesus Christ started and the one He guides.