I give up. Disney can have Fox.

I give up. Disney can have Fox. Jun 21, 2018 15:45:06 GMT

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Post by palerider on Jun 21, 2018 15:45:06 GMT

Jun 21, 2018 15:35:43 GMT summers8 said:

Jun 21, 2018 15:12:05 GMT scabab said:

That's what happened in X-men Apocalypse though. Apocalypse was dumbed down, he should have been the Thanos of the X-men movie series and he is literally best remembered now as a joke because of the whole Ivan Ooze thing. That movie had the same big 20 minute CGI fest action scene too except it wasn't that good.

Saying six of the last seven movies have been good...is true but isn't exactly painting the right picture towards it. Two of those movies came from the Wolverine spin-off series. That's now over with because Hugh Jackman is done with it. Two of those movies came from Deadpool which barely classify as a spin-off anyway because they aren't really that connected to the X-men movie series.

So when it comes to the actual X-men movies, then it's two out of the last three (or two out of the last four) with the last one being no good. Also of the three, First Class and Apocalypse didn't do that well because unlike Days of Future Past it didn't have Wolverine in it. The next one won't have him either.

Yes the MCU movies are more light hearted but not by a whole lot, Black Panther or Civil War weren't particularly less light hearted and family friendly than X-men Apocalypse.

X-men belongs to the same comic brand as all the other heroes so why shouldn't they be for the same market as all those others?

I don't recall any significant backlash to Spider-man. In fact Sony did the two Amazing Spider-man movies, they weren't well liked and they did so so at the box office and then once Marvel Studios stepped in and made Homecoming then that movie was well liked and was very successful. Star Wars is made by another studio altogether and the prequels had massive backlash themselves so nothing has changed with that.

Fans are already not accepting the X-men series right now. People didn't like the last one, they didn't turn up to see it, the amount of fans who want to see X-men under Marvel Studios so they can be in the MCU far out number those who don't and the next movie coming up which is Dark Phoenix nobody is all that interested in because the Dark Phoenix has already been done and Wolverine won't be in it.

the idea that xmen fans wants to see xmen in the mcu is a lie. unless the fake xmen fans. there is nothing in the mcu that is in line in with xmen's lore. xmen fans are very aware that mcu movies are a contradiction to xmen stories and disney cannot tell xmen stories they way it should be told. let me ask you, how will mcu disney adapt a comic like Inferno or the mutant massacre? how would they have adapted DOFP or old man logan/the death of wolverine? like fox did with logan and dofp? this was the mcu that banned tony stark's substance abuse issues, meaning xavier's part in dofp will not be there and no xmen fan will be okay with that because the movie will be dumbed down.

xmen fans , we want more movies like logan, deadpool and dofp, because that fits our comics tone and style of story telling more. mcu movies don't. mcu has admitted their movies will always be funny, aimed at kids and light-hearted and that is not xmen not even xmen tas. there was a significant backlash to homecoming, many just felt it was generic and disneyfied compared to the older movies so they just disposed it after a few months.

Look at black panther, its a generic version of first class more like thor 1, so why would an xmen fan want an xmen movie like black panther, when we already have better?the mcu formula has already gotten stale and continues to loose more credibility in serious film making, one of the reason Logan was so artistically loved in 2017 above gotg 2, homecoming, Thor 3. why will an xmen fan give that up so xmen can be in the mcu with mcu forumla? see the contradiction?please stop confusing mcu fans and xmen fans.

Plenty of X-Men fans want it, you can't speak for all of them.

Actually, the MCU is very much in line with the X-Lore. Only difference is that the X-Movies refuse to develop the premise and grow, whereas the MCU does.

Inferno? Mutant Massacre? Those were terrible stories to begin with. They wouldn't bother with Logan as they don't do those AUs and focus on tighter continuity and DOFP was a very plot hole ridden story anyways.

The MCU didn't ban Tony's problems...they gave him PTSD. They'd do a better job with Xavier in DOFP, because Xavier got over his problems in one scene.

Logan was just your typical Clint Eastwood/Charles Bronson movie and can't be repeated since it relied on Logan dying at the end. Deadpool is an MCU story more or less. DOFP was full of plot holes.

Homecoming had no backlash, I don't know what you're talking about and I suspect you don't either.

Black Panther was better than First Class, much better.

The MCU's only formula is success, which the X-Men need.