I give up. Disney can have Fox.

I give up. Disney can have Fox. Jun 21, 2018 16:50:29 GMT coldenhaulfield likes this

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Post by summers8 on Jun 21, 2018 16:50:29 GMT

Jun 21, 2018 16:30:20 GMT scabab said:

Jun 21, 2018 15:35:43 GMT summers8 said:

xmen fans , we want more movies like logan, deadpool and dofp, because that fits our comics tone and style of story telling more. mcu movies don't. mcu has admitted their movies will always be funny, aimed at kids and light-hearted and that is not xmen not even xmen tas. there was a significant backlash to homecoming, many just felt it was generic and disneyfied compared to the older movies so they just disposed it after a few months.

look at black panther, its a generic version of first class more like thor 1, so why would an xmen fan want an xmen movie like black panther, when we already have better?the mcu formula has already gotten stale and continues to loose more credibility in serious film making, one of the reason Logan was so artistically loved in 2017 above gotg 2, homecoming, Thor 3. why will an xmen fan give that up so xmen can be in the mcu with mcu forumla? see the contradiction?please stop confusing mcu fans and xmen fans.

Well Marvel Studios wouldn't make movies like Logan or Deadpool because they don't make R rated movies nor seem to want to so instead they'd just make PG-13 movies like the X-men movies which is what they should be.

Yes the movies have a lot of humour but the movies are made for people of all ages, certainly not just kids. Spider-man Homecoming never had significant backlash, that never happened. Batman vs Superman has significant backlash as did Fantastic Four. Spider-man Homecoming did not. Whether it's considered generic or Disneyfied would be a bit besides the point because The Amazing Spider-man movies were just as generic if not more so with people complaining that TASM was too much like the first movie.

Either way those Spider-man movies had been making less and less money domestically since 2002 and that trend was reversed when Marvel Studios stepped in. Homecoming is considered by the vast majority to be the best Spider-man movie since at least Spider-man 2.

Also these X-men movies have become generic, they've been going on since 2000. I'm not talking about any spin offs, just the X-men movies, they've become too much the same. It needs a shake up.

Jun 21, 2018 15:44:34 GMT charzhino said:

Apocalypse is the outlier like Winter Soldier is for the MCU. Its the exception not the rule.

People weren't fond of X-men 3 either. That's two out of five X-men movies. Winter Soldier also can't be considered an outlier because seven movies got better reviews than it and five movies have a better score on IMDb.

It doesnt matter what sub division they belong to, end of the day they are Fox Xmen IP productions and they gave their directors enough freedom to innovate with their own style to produce uniquely developed content. When moving forwards the prediction should follow this trend.

It matters when it's referring to X-men movies. If Marvel Studios get X-men then they'll just focus on X-men movies at least for a while. As such the comparison would just be with the X-men movies because neither is going to making any Wolverine movies anyway.

So under Fox you now have an X-men series where the latest movie disappointed financially and critically and the next one likely to disappoint perhaps even more so at least financially. If Marvel Studios were to make a X-men movie it would make far more money, that much is a given, critically considered their track record it would also have a good chance of being better.

We will see how Dark Phoniex does. People didnt turn up for Apocalypse as much as hoped, but thats because it was poorly handled. Suicide Squad made more money yet was 10x worse so it dont mean zilch. People turned up for Deadpool and Logan after Apocalypse, the Fox logo still has faith in viewers.

Suicide Squad is getting a sequel though and supposedly spin off of it's own. People did go to see Deadpool and Logan but they are now at a point that the main series itself, X-men is the one that is doing the worst. This is like how Justice League did worse than all it's individual movies.

People loved Wolverine. First Class was a great movie but it also took a dive because it didn't have him. They can keep making these movies but without him being in it from now on it will never come back the way it did.

Jun 21, 2018 15:48:06 GMT charzhino said:

That sums up pretty much every MCU movie yet they get over praised. The critics are brand loyal shills.

Because with The Wolverine it was confused. It was one type of movie for the first three quarters that had very little CGI, it was set in real life locations, you had Wolverine fighting a actual samurai with a proper sword and proper choreography and it was fairly down to earth for an X-men movie. Nothing at all like Origins Wolverine but then it very suddenly turned into a completely different movie and became just like Origins Wolverine with them in a generic lab setting where he's fighting someone that looks like the Shredder from the TMNT 2014 movie.

It would be like if at the end of The Dark Knight, the Joker drank some venom serum and turned into a giant hulking version of himself that Batman then has a brawl with like at the end of the Arkham Asylum video game, it would be completely out of place.

That's not a problem that the MCU movies have because they at least have a consistent tone throughout.

nice try, but it is mcu movies that are generic movies not xmen, the only people that call xmen generic are mcu fans who hate the fact that xmen is taken more seriously and respected while their mcu movies are seen as cgi disney jokes, even DC fans liked and respected what xmen movies did for comics especially after batman and robin, it was xmen movies that showed comic films can be smart, be more about story telling and drama, deep and intellectual and can address had hitting issues even with some set backs like X3. You cannot rewrite XMEN movies to make it fit the mcu generic formula that we know.

let me ask why did black panther take inspiration from xmen to look smart and less generic? you want to know how generic mcu is? they tried to copy xmen to look more authentic with black panther.

if you hate wolverine that much, how do you justify avengers 2012 that is just about cartoonish fights , explosions and blowing up cities for 1.5 hours and having fun with it..dumbed down. at least the samurai in wolverine was a threat to him, laslty you ignored my post. so I ask again, how will disney adapt inferno or the mutant massacre? this is what decides this debate. if you cant give me an answer then mcu cannot make a good xmen movie compared to what fox has done.

xmen is not about jokes and selling toys.