Post by palerider on Jun 21, 2018 17:16:02 GMT
Yes the movies have a lot of humour but the movies are made for people of all ages, certainly not just kids. Spider-man Homecoming never had significant backlash, that never happened. Batman vs Superman has significant backlash as did Fantastic Four. Spider-man Homecoming did not. Whether it's considered generic or Disneyfied would be a bit besides the point because The Amazing Spider-man movies were just as generic if not more so with people complaining that TASM was too much like the first movie.
Either way those Spider-man movies had been making less and less money domestically since 2002 and that trend was reversed when Marvel Studios stepped in. Homecoming is considered by the vast majority to be the best Spider-man movie since at least Spider-man 2.
Also these X-men movies have become generic, they've been going on since 2000. I'm not talking about any spin offs, just the X-men movies, they've become too much the same. It needs a shake up.
People weren't fond of X-men 3 either. That's two out of five X-men movies. Winter Soldier also can't be considered an outlier because seven movies got better reviews than it and five movies have a better score on IMDb.
It matters when it's referring to X-men movies. If Marvel Studios get X-men then they'll just focus on X-men movies at least for a while. As such the comparison would just be with the X-men movies because neither is going to making any Wolverine movies anyway.
So under Fox you now have an X-men series where the latest movie disappointed financially and critically and the next one likely to disappoint perhaps even more so at least financially. If Marvel Studios were to make a X-men movie it would make far more money, that much is a given, critically considered their track record it would also have a good chance of being better.
Suicide Squad is getting a sequel though and supposedly spin off of it's own. People did go to see Deadpool and Logan but they are now at a point that the main series itself, X-men is the one that is doing the worst. This is like how Justice League did worse than all it's individual movies.
People loved Wolverine. First Class was a great movie but it also took a dive because it didn't have him. They can keep making these movies but without him being in it from now on it will never come back the way it did.
Because with The Wolverine it was confused. It was one type of movie for the first three quarters that had very little CGI, it was set in real life locations, you had Wolverine fighting a actual samurai with a proper sword and proper choreography and it was fairly down to earth for an X-men movie. Nothing at all like Origins Wolverine but then it very suddenly turned into a completely different movie and became just like Origins Wolverine with them in a generic lab setting where he's fighting someone that looks like the Shredder from the TMNT 2014 movie.
It would be like if at the end of The Dark Knight, the Joker drank some venom serum and turned into a giant hulking version of himself that Batman then has a brawl with like at the end of the Arkham Asylum video game, it would be completely out of place.
That's not a problem that the MCU movies have because they at least have a consistent tone throughout.
nice try, but it is mcu movies that are generic movies not xmen, the only people that call xmen generic are mcu fans who hate the fact that xmen is taken more seriously and respected while their mcu movies are seen as cgi disney jokes, even DC fans liked and respected what xmen movies did for comics especially after batman and robin, it was xmen movies that showed comic films can be smart, be more about story telling and drama, deep and intellectual and can address had hitting issues even with some set backs like X3. You cannot rewrite XMEN movies to make it fit the mcu generic formula that we know.
let me ask why did black panther take inspiration from xmen to look smart and less generic? you want to know how generic mcu is? they tried to copy xmen to look more authentic with black panther.
if you hate wolverine that much, how do you justify avengers 2012 that is just about cartoonish fights , explosions and blowing up cities for 1.5 hours and having fun with it..dumbed down. at least the samurai in wolverine was a threat to him, laslty you ignored my post. so I ask again, how will disney adapt inferno or the mutant massacre? this is what decides this debate. if you cant give me an answer then mcu cannot make a good xmen movie compared to what fox has done.
xmen is not about jokes and selling toys.
Inferno and Mutant Massacre were terrible stories, so I don't know why you're asking why the MCU would adapt terrible stories.
X-Men is about selling merchandise...they just suck at it.
The X-Movies want to be profound...but they're not. At all.
BP wasn't inspired by X-men, it was inspired by the BP comics. If anything, X-Men copied BP in the comics by trying to be more about issues.
