For all the hate on Disney Star Wars

I used IMDb as a resource for years-at least 6 or 8-before actually creating an account to discuss Thor. We had a certain segment of trolls on the Marvel boards-mostly from the Dark Knight boards, but we also would get raided by Walking Dead & Expendables, of all things.
We would get regular DC comic fans posting on the Marvel boards who invariably responded when asked why they were creating Batman comic book threads on the Marvel boards that the Dark Knight boards were hell where voice an opinion other than Nolan was god/Batman is the best would draw trash responses so I started checking out The Dark Knight Rises board. I was actually on that board, having attended a preview Thursday night with my daughter's friend, when word started filtering in about a shooting in Colorado.

But the interesting trick I'm going for here is the IMDb top 200 films. If you have ever checked it out, you will note it is unusual for many critically acclaimed films not being on top. The story common to those who claimed to know was Batfans (though maybe Nolanites) had voted down all the traditional top movies which is why a movie like Citizen Kane is in the 70s while Shawshank Redemption is #1 & has been for years. Some of the TDKR board regulars bragged of having dozens of sock accounts they had created to manipulate the IMDB ratings in an attempt to get TDK into the top 10 back in 2008

Which is why I dont really bother with the ratings on IMDb. A movie can have 2000 "1" votes before the film even opens.

I suspect similar happens on RT. I have created 2 accounts there, but both dont let me log in a month or 2 down the road so I have given up trying to rate movies there.

Certain films get downvoted. I have never figured it out. Why do people care so bloody much to downvote a movie?

I enjoyed the last Ghostbusters. I saw the nasty crap people said about it on the boards as I wondered what the hell the original was being held up as so untouchable. I saw it & its sequel in theater when they were released. It was Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein put comedians in a scary setting & let them mug for the camera, not some untouchable icon on a movie.

Movies get remade.
Hell, A Star is Born is on its 4th incarnation this year. Ben Hur is based on an 1880's novel made into a play & then 5 films & a mini series on tv.



As I said, how many sock accounts? I really don't get the wrath.

I gave it a 7 on IMDb, probably because my kid really liked it, but I might change it to a 6. I dont do many 1s. Of the 3,451 ratings I've made on IMDb, 165 are 10 & 16 are 1.


So what about me?
I know as a female I don't figure into the usual comic book fan demographic.

Hell, I have been in comic shops & heard what guys say about gals. Shall I be offended?

The movie maker/book author/artist, etc. Make their thing. I am sure many hold stupid opinions. Dont we all?

But does it matter whether I agree with everything Robert Bloch ever said in an interview on whether I enjoy his stories?

I disagree with suicide. Shall I stop liking James Tiptree Jr's stories because she killed her husband & then herself because they both suffered severe health issues the last few decades of their lives?

She was notable because she created the male pen name in 1967 & managed to remain unknown until someone finally deduced who she was. It was known to be a pen name, but everyone assumed male.

So is sexism a thing?
Yeah.
Usually one can ignore it, but I've seen more than my share in 58 yrs.

I really dont care for Joss Whedon. He has said many dumb things & I take issue with some of his female characters, but I can still thoroughly enjoy both Avengers movies.



You want to do that, whatever.
Every film is more than its director or stars. How many jobs did Deadpool 2 say it created at the end of the credits? Look at Roseanne getting axed & all the peripherals who lost their jobs for the words of one person. I honestly dont expect the spinoff to survive.



I believe a lot of TFA was nostalgia. We lost Han. I deliberately sought out that spoiler so I could brace for it & still cried so much. It ruined the end. We should have had that "yee haw!" cheer when they blew up the weapon, but I was still fighting the tears. I didn't care about Obi-wan in A New Hope that much because he was some crazy hermit we just met. We KNEW Han. We watched him in 4 films. I was so pissed I swore Kylo is irredeemable even though I strongly suspect they will try the Darth Vader save at the end movIe. It's probably why Leia survived-his love for his mother will turn him.
But patricide.
No.
There's no coming back from an unprovoked murder of a parent.

But I do question the selection of Johnson to direct. I very much enjoyed John Carter, but they let the directir ruin it. I saw interviews where he talked about the open checkbook they gave him to the point there was no way in hell it could make a profit. The entertainment press loves expensive flops so when the budget rose so high, they were loaded for bear. It had to fail.

And I fail to see how Brothers Bloom=Star Wars. It was interesting,but a bit quirky to lead to a space opera directing gig.
I see it as similar to WB putting so much faith in Snyder. The Comic-Con crowd I work with largely disliked Man of Steel & his take on Supes. Superman isnt Batman. He smiles. He doesn't need a priest to tell him to do the right thing. Batman lost his parents which darkened his entire perspective. Superman lost his entire planet, but gained a new one he wants to protect.

I like Jason Momoa, but have only the vaguest memory of the Aquaman cartoon. It feels like they are borrowing Namor's darkness for this Aquaman.

Its the reason Marvel has taken off. They care about the product. Disney is letting them do their thing. The approach to Star Wars sadly seems more the old school Hollywood Studio game of handing it to a director & trusting that vision. Marvel will fire director who strays too far.

Howard was the better choice for Star Wars