Post by ThatGuy on Jul 3, 2018 20:26:20 GMT
Jul 3, 2018 7:57:10 GMT merh said:
Jul 3, 2018 4:41:26 GMT _ said:
And a lot of Disney execs, too.You have the current comic fans who worship Batman & Nolan & you have the public at large that like the characters they remember from their youth. Christopher Reeve. The classic Supes & Bats.
I went to Solo again Saturday. The audience laughed at the jokes & seemed to enjoy it.
They were also pretty much old enough to have seen the original in the theater back in 1977.
The Star Wars fandom is split & its a split that has been with them since at least the prequels.
You have the fans who love the films but have never bothered with the expanded stuff-the books or the cartoons.
Even Rian Johnson is a WB style mistake. WB put its faith in Snyder who wowed with 300 & Watchmen.
Watchmen was budgeted at $130 mill & took in $107 mill domestic yet WB gave him the keys to their DC cinematic universe which has done well with the hardcore audience, but lost the general fans. Domestic the 5 films have made $1.5 billion domestic & $3.7 billion worldwide.
MCU take domestic 19 films is $6.6 billion/$16.9 billion worldwide.
Thats an average of $300 mill domestic/$740 mill worldwide per picture vs $347 mill/$889 mill.
DC even had the advantage of more familiar characters. Marvel following typical book publishing practice licensed their heavy hitters, their Batman, Superman & Wonder Woman, out to the highest bidder leaving them with lesser known characters-their Flash, Green Lantern, etc.
Brothers Bloom was a good movie. Odd, but I enjoyed it. Looper I couldnt finish. It just never pulled me in. Why the hell did they offer this guy their golden egg? Much like why did WB give the DCEU to the guy who made Sucker Punch, a film that made $37 mill domestic off an $82 mill budget?
Ron Howard was a far better choice, but the fanboys showed Disney!
Star Wars is probably closer to 300 than Brothers Bloom. It is more a mythic voyage-the Hero's Journey. Jedi, aliens...they are more Hercules, Medusa, Gorgon, Titans, etc. Not that Snyder would work in Star Wars. Hell no. 300 is more a war movie with closer ties to [name your favorite war movie. Battle of the Bulge. Whatever].
My back-of-head suspicion is Disney wanted what he sold. Like WB, they thought the fans would buy it. They want to branch away from the Skywalker story.
disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/hollywood-studios/star-wars-jedi-training/
That sells better getting away from The Force running strong with the Skywalkers.
Granted, obviously Lucas showed others could use the Force. Obi-wan isn't a Skywalker.
I'm suspicious they brought Johnson in to sell the merchandise.
But thats still no damned reason to boycott Solo.
You know Marvel had something similar.
Isaac Perlmutter was a member of the board of directors of Marvel Comics beginning in April 1993 and was chairman of the board until March 1995.
Isaac Perlmutter also was the co-owner, with Avi Arad, of Toy Biz (later Marvel Toys), having purchased its predecessor company from Charan Industries in January 1990.[4] Toy Biz, Inc. was reorganized in the Marvel deal with Perlmutter continuing to own the original Toy Biz, Inc., which was renamed Zib, Inc. Zib held its foreign sales affiliate, Toy Biz International Ltd., a Hong Kong corporation and Perlmutter's share of the new Toy Biz, Inc.[9]
When Marvel company group went bankrupt in 1996, protracted legal battles over control of the company followed between Perlmutter, Arad, Carl Icahn, and Ron Perelman. By 1997, Perlmutter and Arad had established control over the company, pushing out Icahn and Perelman. ToyBiz and Marvel were merged into Marvel Enterprises to bring it out of bankruptcy in June 1998 with ToyBiz becoming a division of the new company.[10]
In November 2001, Perlmutter became vice chairman of the board of directors of Marvel.[4] He became the chief executive officer of Marvel Comics on January 1, 2005. He remained CEO of Marvel Entertainment, even after the acquisition of Marvel by The Walt Disney Company on December 31, 2009. Although Perlmutter received $800 million in cash and $590 million in Disney stock after the acquisition, he did not want a seat on Disney's board of directors.
In September 2015, Perlmutter stopped overseeing the development of Marvel Studios. Disney felt the studio head, Kevin Feige, should report directly to the chairman of The Walt Disney Studios, Alan Horn, so all cinematic properties of Disney, including Pixar and Lucasfilm, were under one management structure. The restructuring was allegedly due to Feige's "frustration" of working with Perlmutter as well as some alleged controversial comments and actions by Perlmutter, such as replacing the casting of Terrence Howard as James Rhodes with Don Cheadle because black people "look the same." A person with knowledge of his creative approach said, "Ike Perlmutter neither discriminates nor cares about diversity, he just cares about what he thinks will make money."[13] Jeph Loeb, who oversees Marvel Television and the television properties of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, still reports to Perlmutter.
Isaac Perlmutter also was the co-owner, with Avi Arad, of Toy Biz (later Marvel Toys), having purchased its predecessor company from Charan Industries in January 1990.[4] Toy Biz, Inc. was reorganized in the Marvel deal with Perlmutter continuing to own the original Toy Biz, Inc., which was renamed Zib, Inc. Zib held its foreign sales affiliate, Toy Biz International Ltd., a Hong Kong corporation and Perlmutter's share of the new Toy Biz, Inc.[9]
When Marvel company group went bankrupt in 1996, protracted legal battles over control of the company followed between Perlmutter, Arad, Carl Icahn, and Ron Perelman. By 1997, Perlmutter and Arad had established control over the company, pushing out Icahn and Perelman. ToyBiz and Marvel were merged into Marvel Enterprises to bring it out of bankruptcy in June 1998 with ToyBiz becoming a division of the new company.[10]
In November 2001, Perlmutter became vice chairman of the board of directors of Marvel.[4] He became the chief executive officer of Marvel Comics on January 1, 2005. He remained CEO of Marvel Entertainment, even after the acquisition of Marvel by The Walt Disney Company on December 31, 2009. Although Perlmutter received $800 million in cash and $590 million in Disney stock after the acquisition, he did not want a seat on Disney's board of directors.
In September 2015, Perlmutter stopped overseeing the development of Marvel Studios. Disney felt the studio head, Kevin Feige, should report directly to the chairman of The Walt Disney Studios, Alan Horn, so all cinematic properties of Disney, including Pixar and Lucasfilm, were under one management structure. The restructuring was allegedly due to Feige's "frustration" of working with Perlmutter as well as some alleged controversial comments and actions by Perlmutter, such as replacing the casting of Terrence Howard as James Rhodes with Don Cheadle because black people "look the same." A person with knowledge of his creative approach said, "Ike Perlmutter neither discriminates nor cares about diversity, he just cares about what he thinks will make money."[13] Jeph Loeb, who oversees Marvel Television and the television properties of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, still reports to Perlmutter.
When they moved him to the TV side is when Inhumans switched from a movie to a TV series. I'm convinced his interest in Inhumans is because Marvel hasn't had the film rights to XMEN but Perlmutter sees them as the same.