Post by merh on Jul 3, 2018 23:48:32 GMT
Jul 3, 2018 7:57:10 GMT merh said:
Disney execs are running into the same problem as WB is with DC fans-you cant please them because the fandom is split.You have the current comic fans who worship Batman & Nolan & you have the public at large that like the characters they remember from their youth. Christopher Reeve. The classic Supes & Bats.
I went to Solo again Saturday. The audience laughed at the jokes & seemed to enjoy it.
They were also pretty much old enough to have seen the original in the theater back in 1977.
The Star Wars fandom is split & its a split that has been with them since at least the prequels.
You have the fans who love the films but have never bothered with the expanded stuff-the books or the cartoons.
Even Rian Johnson is a WB style mistake. WB put its faith in Snyder who wowed with 300 & Watchmen.
Watchmen was budgeted at $130 mill & took in $107 mill domestic yet WB gave him the keys to their DC cinematic universe which has done well with the hardcore audience, but lost the general fans. Domestic the 5 films have made $1.5 billion domestic & $3.7 billion worldwide.
MCU take domestic 19 films is $6.6 billion/$16.9 billion worldwide.
Thats an average of $300 mill domestic/$740 mill worldwide per picture vs $347 mill/$889 mill.
DC even had the advantage of more familiar characters. Marvel following typical book publishing practice licensed their heavy hitters, their Batman, Superman & Wonder Woman, out to the highest bidder leaving them with lesser known characters-their Flash, Green Lantern, etc.
Brothers Bloom was a good movie. Odd, but I enjoyed it. Looper I couldnt finish. It just never pulled me in. Why the hell did they offer this guy their golden egg? Much like why did WB give the DCEU to the guy who made Sucker Punch, a film that made $37 mill domestic off an $82 mill budget?
Ron Howard was a far better choice, but the fanboys showed Disney!
Star Wars is probably closer to 300 than Brothers Bloom. It is more a mythic voyage-the Hero's Journey. Jedi, aliens...they are more Hercules, Medusa, Gorgon, Titans, etc. Not that Snyder would work in Star Wars. Hell no. 300 is more a war movie with closer ties to [name your favorite war movie. Battle of the Bulge. Whatever].
My back-of-head suspicion is Disney wanted what he sold. Like WB, they thought the fans would buy it. They want to branch away from the Skywalker story.
disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/hollywood-studios/star-wars-jedi-training/
That sells better getting away from The Force running strong with the Skywalkers.
Granted, obviously Lucas showed others could use the Force. Obi-wan isn't a Skywalker.
I'm suspicious they brought Johnson in to sell the merchandise.
But thats still no damned reason to boycott Solo.
You know Marvel had something similar.
He's the one who gave us Inhumans.
When they moved him to the TV side is when Inhumans switched from a movie to a TV series. I'm convinced his interest in Inhumans is because Marvel hasn't had the film rights to XMEN but Perlmutter sees them as the same.
You think JL failed over a switched director?
Whedon was too little too late.
Bats is obsessed with killing Supes, then next movie says we need to bring him back?
I went to JL in the theater
I have the steel book blue ray.
I am a Thor fangirl. A Captain America fangirl.
But i remember Kal-El & Kara from my childhood as well.
I LOVE Supergirl. They got Kara & Kal-El right.
So yeah, last Jedi sucked for laying waste to everything Abrams set up, but I CAN SEE Luke ending up a hermit, disillusioned.
All you fools who didnt bother with Solo deprived yourself of an excellent movie.
We see Han, street kid but still in his way as innocent & hopeful as Luke in the course of the movie het betrayed again & again. He's not the Han we know in New Hope yet, but he is on his way
And Luke took his own journey to become disillusioned like Han in New Hope by the time we see him again in TFA.
But what some of you Luke fanboys also miss is a line in Solo where Qi'ra informs Han he isn't the outlaw he fancies himself. He is a good guy. The good guy that resurfaces in New Hope to save Luke.
Think about it.
They ended the Emperor.
Rebuilding the universe shouldnt have been that hard...
Yet we have the First Order taking over.
It's like the flower children of the 60s were going to end war forever.
Do you see where Luke is now in TLJ?
Youth & optimism gone.
No other Jedi to offer support.
Obviously teaching padawans isnt as easy as it looks.
Obi-wan failed with Anakin.
And again...
Star Wars fans are the worst fandom, isnt it?
You all whine Solo comes out 6 months after TLJ-TOO SOON!
Marvel put out Black Panther in February, Avengers in April, & Ant-man this Friday.
THREE FILMS.
what's wrong with you guys?
Can't keep up?
YOU CAN'T REPLACE HARRISON FORD!!!
Meanwhile Marvel quietly plugs in Mark Ruffalo to replace Ed Norton as Bruce Banner & isn't Ferrigno done as the voice of Hulk? Hasn't it been Ruffalo since Ragnarok?
Terrance Howard replaced by Don Cheadle as Rhodey. Not a peep from the fanboys.
Zachary Levi replaced Joshua Dallas as Fandral in Dark Work. No problem.
So why is it ok when Marvel does it, but the Star Wars fanboys have a cow over every little thing?
I have loved Thor & Cap since 1965. I have loved Star Wars since 1977.
Hell, I remember having a Star Trek Phaser when I was 7 or 8 so around 1967.(shot little round plastic disks)

