Post by leesilm on Jul 16, 2018 6:50:34 GMT
Honestly, when I read it all - not just the tweeted-about-quotes, I didn't see anything to get up in arms over. I mean, yes, maybe he could have said something like, "I don't want to go over to her and flirt, and wake up tomorrow to see a headline reading, SUPERMAN A HORNDOG" instead of the Rapist thing- but he has said in the past that he isn't always the most eloquent person, especially when stuff he thinks sounds funny in person, ends up looking rather awkward in print. Print loses the subtext and subtleties of the spoken interaction- if someone was being sarcastic or possibly rephrasing something a third party said, once it appears in print, it can look like they were being serious or the third person's initial comment is left out so you don't realize who/what was being quoted by whom. You lose the flow of things.
And really, I do feel for people in the METOO era, who've come to second-guess how they flirt and how they try to pick up chics for anything from a night of fun to a potential life partner. One of my absolute best friends, a man who you could call at 3am from the side of the road, and he'd drive an hour in the rain to come get you - he's a sweetheart. A teddy bear. Let him get into a bar or a club, and see an attractive woman, he becomes the most obnoxious, over the top, life of the party, lord of the dance, king of the buffoons. He is terrible, and many times has come across as creepy and has done things that have made his friends want to smack him. And imagine, if you will, adding all the issues of Celebrity atop that. I'm sure, in this day and age, no attractive actor (esp. not one in Comic Book movies)doesn't get a long, scary lecture from their agent/manager about making sure you don't do anything that can be taken any wrong way when you are in social situations- anything from a 13yr old fan seeing you in an elevator and wanting your autograph to flirting with a 23yr old in the club to photo sessions at SDCC, that you make sure no one can say you touched someone inappropriately, no one can say you took the flirtations further than were wanted, and no one can say you weren't the most polite and wonderful superhero even out of costume.
He's talked, in the past, about making sure he kept a certain fitness level cause if he goes swimming with his nephews at the beach and had a bit of a pounch/dad-bod going on, that it would be all over the headlines the next day, "SUPERMAN FAT!" Imagine realizing you had that kind of microscope on you when you went to try to chat up a girl in a bar, coffee joint, or at the beach? Then add on the fear that, in this MeToo era, things that used to be seen as harmless flirting- are now harassment. Don't get me wrong, I'm saying this while having also been someone who had to explain to a friend that my age/height/build/martial arts training/etc. did not make me immune when she couldn't understand how women were still getting pressured by bosses to wear lower cut blouses, shorter skirts, etc., to stay late with the boss for reasons aside from paperwork, joked that they only got their position because they were willing to spread their legs for it, whatever. She had recently been blatantly harassed and wasn't processing it very well, and a couple of us who are friends with her, explained (with some personal examples, some where we were the targets, others where we were witnesses or had heard about it from the friend it happened to) how it happens every day, to lots of women, regardless of creed, color, how they dress, how much make up they do/don't wear, what class they belong to, or if they are straight/gay/bi/etc. That you can be a short, blonde haired, intelligent, straight, Catholic, shapely girl in your early 20s, a 40-something with dark wavy hair, big brown eyes, a twig-like figure, Amazonian height, bisexual, and with a PhD behind your name, or a 30yr old stay at home mother with a kid on your hip as you are trying to get your mini van's keys out of your diaper bag... But even with that in mind, even understanding the good #MeToo has done, I can completely get how it can be scary for men who aren't the smoothest in the world or terribly eloquent. If Tom HIddleston, who basically double majored in English Lit and Poetry, can get in trouble from opening mouth and inserting foot - what hope does anyone have in this digital age?
And really, I do feel for people in the METOO era, who've come to second-guess how they flirt and how they try to pick up chics for anything from a night of fun to a potential life partner. One of my absolute best friends, a man who you could call at 3am from the side of the road, and he'd drive an hour in the rain to come get you - he's a sweetheart. A teddy bear. Let him get into a bar or a club, and see an attractive woman, he becomes the most obnoxious, over the top, life of the party, lord of the dance, king of the buffoons. He is terrible, and many times has come across as creepy and has done things that have made his friends want to smack him. And imagine, if you will, adding all the issues of Celebrity atop that. I'm sure, in this day and age, no attractive actor (esp. not one in Comic Book movies)doesn't get a long, scary lecture from their agent/manager about making sure you don't do anything that can be taken any wrong way when you are in social situations- anything from a 13yr old fan seeing you in an elevator and wanting your autograph to flirting with a 23yr old in the club to photo sessions at SDCC, that you make sure no one can say you touched someone inappropriately, no one can say you took the flirtations further than were wanted, and no one can say you weren't the most polite and wonderful superhero even out of costume.
He's talked, in the past, about making sure he kept a certain fitness level cause if he goes swimming with his nephews at the beach and had a bit of a pounch/dad-bod going on, that it would be all over the headlines the next day, "SUPERMAN FAT!" Imagine realizing you had that kind of microscope on you when you went to try to chat up a girl in a bar, coffee joint, or at the beach? Then add on the fear that, in this MeToo era, things that used to be seen as harmless flirting- are now harassment. Don't get me wrong, I'm saying this while having also been someone who had to explain to a friend that my age/height/build/martial arts training/etc. did not make me immune when she couldn't understand how women were still getting pressured by bosses to wear lower cut blouses, shorter skirts, etc., to stay late with the boss for reasons aside from paperwork, joked that they only got their position because they were willing to spread their legs for it, whatever. She had recently been blatantly harassed and wasn't processing it very well, and a couple of us who are friends with her, explained (with some personal examples, some where we were the targets, others where we were witnesses or had heard about it from the friend it happened to) how it happens every day, to lots of women, regardless of creed, color, how they dress, how much make up they do/don't wear, what class they belong to, or if they are straight/gay/bi/etc. That you can be a short, blonde haired, intelligent, straight, Catholic, shapely girl in your early 20s, a 40-something with dark wavy hair, big brown eyes, a twig-like figure, Amazonian height, bisexual, and with a PhD behind your name, or a 30yr old stay at home mother with a kid on your hip as you are trying to get your mini van's keys out of your diaper bag... But even with that in mind, even understanding the good #MeToo has done, I can completely get how it can be scary for men who aren't the smoothest in the world or terribly eloquent. If Tom HIddleston, who basically double majored in English Lit and Poetry, can get in trouble from opening mouth and inserting foot - what hope does anyone have in this digital age?