Is it wrong to judge how people behaved in the past based on today's morals?
Jul 18, 2018 10:32:08 GMT
Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 18, 2018 10:32:08 GMT
If it suits you, and you wish this newly-qualified view taken of your original words now, that's fine. It appears then that when you said "The law is completely irrelevant, there's no moral obligation for you to obey the law." you really meant in fact, er, some law needs to be obeyed after all. You can see how it strains, and how to many it will appear as just another Trump moment, of rowing back in confusion.
Seriously wondering if you're an aspie now.
An ad hominem is not an argument.
I brought up the fact that humans historically have been really terrible at making laws, the implication to all of us here who speak English being that therefore there is no reason to obey a law just because [sic] its the law.
And to which the same reply pertains. When, since the law is completely irrelevant, or just 'made terribly' and so perhaps I just think senicide a 'bad' law, can I shoot your grandmother?
You responded by going on about how human law is so much better then divine law. Keep up.
A reminder appears in order here, since your representation is mischievous. It was you who first started out with "I find it really amusing that as an atheist you would look to a piece of paper for moral guidance, remind you of anyone on this board? Hint - these people believe in the Abrahamic god." which looks like a comparison of your own accord. To which I replied, rightly, that "You did not specify religious law, just 'the law' my friend." You then tried a strawman, again continuing your running distinction between divine and secular law: claiming I do, or said, something that I have not done on this thread, that "It's just funny that you criticise Christians for looking to the bible for moral guidance ..." to which I replied "If I was to criticise the faithful for doing this it would be because the laws of the bible are said to be given authority by the inspiration of a purported supernatural, rather than the due processes of men, where that source and authority remains questionable", quite a different emphasis to that you suggest. So then, we can see it was you brought things up to which I made reasonable reply. And you will note that my last comment was, even then, a conditional one. I hope that helps. Time to move on.
So .. you appear, now, to be arguing that we should only obey "good laws", making no distinction between secular and religious ones, although generally law is overall "irrelevant" because men can have poor judgement. Which is surely contradictory, since laws are there to help mankind judge its own actions, are they not? And, if you are right and men make poor moral decisions, then why should one take the moral judgement of any man - you - in particular about laws' worth and whether to follow it or not? I don't know either. LOL

