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Post by amyghost on Jul 18, 2018 18:15:37 GMT
Weinstein is facing trial, Spacey may have charges brought. Of the many others named, none have had formal charges brought against them to date, nor faced their accusers in open court. They have had their reputations ruined, their livelihoods decimated, and may have their future careers permanently impacted based upon as of yet unproven allegations, and trial in the court of public opinion and the sensationalist press. You're okay with this? Or do you have any belief at all in the shibboleth of 'innocent until proven guilty', an assumption on which one of the bases of our legal foundation rests, de facto if not de jure? If you’re okay with the former, then you might feel right at home in Mao’s China or Stalinist Russia—two other societies where guilt was assumed through the presumption of public and peer pressure, as opposed to the right to trial by jury as a prerequisite to the establishment of guilt. Messy as our judicial system might be, I still prefer its workings to what the worst excesses of groups such as MeToo can result in when guided by hysteria and no restraints. So what you're saying it doesn't matter if there's multiple accusors and witnesses? That's nice for you, but not everyone has a camera filming them 24/7 just in case. That's right--this is why we have a judicial system: because even multiple accusors and witnesses can be wrong ( vide the Salem withchcraft trials; vide the McCarthy Communist hearings; vide American lynch law), and as you point out, no one is under surveillance 24/7--so we need an independent judicial body comprised (ideally) of an impartial judge and jury to weigh the claims and statements of those accusors and witnesses, to sift their accounts and determine the credibility and truthfulness of same. Of course, for you that's not fire-breathingly SJW enough, so you'd prefer to jettison all due process in favor of righteous popular vengeance--and I happily leave you to the sort of society you'll be facing if that ever completely obtains as the norm. It's already coming scarily close in some respects to becoming that sort of society as it is.
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