Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 20, 2018 16:47:59 GMT
I realize the winning teams get all the fans in college. I brought that one up actually. That's what happens when smaller teams don't have an equal shot at winning.
Well let's use that logic on the players. It "isn't fair" to the players...and yet they line up to be drafted. The majority of them don't bother with a free education in order to try for a job in this alleged "unfair" system. Why would they do that?
Well let's use that logic on the players. It "isn't fair" to the players...and yet they line up to be drafted. The majority of them don't bother with a free education in order to try for a job in this alleged "unfair" system. Why would they do that?
Sure, but nobody is complaining. Duke fans in New Jersey don't care that Duke isn't in New Jersey, so it isn't regional, as you suggested. And again, division 1 is filled with teams that have no shot at winning a national title but the fans still go to the games. Your commentary on the draft is puzzling. Players 'line up' for the draft because there is no other option, this is the point I've been making. And please don't tell me they can go work at the convenience store if they don't like it, that logic has no place in this discussion.
How about we pretend each team is a separate entity instead of a league? That would be necessary to make your claim work.
The draft is out obviously.
Each team sets their own schedule. I guess they would have to negotiate with other teams. The Lakers would just skip playing teams like the Cavs, Wizards, and Hawks....no one wants to see that. Do they play 82 games or 102? Who knows?
Do the Lakers hire their own refs and make their own rules? Maybe they don't think it should be against the rules to hand check. Goaltending wouldn't be called against the Lakers either in their gym. Perfectly legal.
The Dallas Mavs could change their uniforms as often as they like. Oh....and Mark Cuban can spend as money as he wants. I'll bet he would love to just hire half the Celtics roster.
No it wouldn't. Allowing players to play where they wanted to play would not require dissolving the league, tearing up the rule book or anything else you've presented in this bizarre scenario. All you'd really need to do is enforce a hard salary cap. The Warriors core isn't going stay intact forever, free agency will make sure of that. The 1960s Celtics didn't have to worry about free agency and they were unbeatable, even more so than the Warriors of today. All the league could do was wait for Russell to retire. In the 90s, all the league could do was wait for Jordan to retire. Basketball is about talent, perhaps more than any other sport. How a team acquires that talent is what's being discussed here, and I think players should have more say.
The great players are going to want to cash in, and with a hard salary cap there's only so much cash to go around. A super team isn't going to last forever, certainly no longer than the dynasties of the draft era have lasted. And I'd say free agency worked out pretty well for the Heat a few years back. And then the players moved on, allowing the rise of another champion-- all thanks to free agency.
You aren't making the case why fans should put the players desires ahead of their own. If you aren't trying to do that then we have no reason to quibble over it. Fans put themselves first just like the players do.
Once more, fans still go to games. There isn't an NBA team operating in the red. Toronto, Indiana, the Clippers; these teams have never won anything and people still go to the games, large or small market. Across all of sports, fans go to games whether their team is a contender or not. As a fan, you can't expect anything other than a solid effort from your club. Forcing players to waste their entire careers in poorly run organizations doesn't help the players, the game itself, or the fans.
We're talking in circles here and I don't understand where you're coming from with a lot of this stuff. I don't mean to condescend; I've had great basketball conversations with you in the past. I just don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye so we'll have to agree to disagree. It's ultimately a non-issue as I don't expect the draft or free agency to go anywhere anytime soon.


