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Post by Eλευθερί on Aug 7, 2018 18:49:21 GMT
We who are alive today do not know that he convinced anybody of anything. We only know that various people claimed that he had walked and preached. Same as with Moses and his tablets. Same as with the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) the Holy Quran. Same as with Joseph Smith and his Revelation. I'm not talking about today. Are you saying that the movement didn't spread until many decades after when it is said He died? People just made up some early first century guy many years after the fact when first century people died off and weren't there to contradict them? Again, I'm not talking claims to have witnessed miracles-I'm talking simply of a man who spoke to crowds and preached in temples. As for Smith it's one thing to fool someone into believing Smith's revelations if they aren't true than it is to make up a Smith who never existed and get contemporaries to believe they had contact with him. For the present discussion, I am not saying anything about whether Jesus existed or not. I am offering the suggestion that if one can easily dismiss various parts of the Bible as not being meant to be taken literally, what protects the Jesus story from similarly being dismissed? (But for the record, why, yes, there is little to no reliable third-party contemporaneously recorded documentation of Jesus' alleged life and ministry. The evidence for Joseph Smith's real existence is, to the contrary, abundant. It's entirely possible, if not probable, that 'people just made up some early first century guy many years after the fact when first century people died off and weren't there to contradict them.')
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