Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2018 10:40:27 GMT
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We don't have the authority to impose penalties on an authority figures right now.
Further there seems to be an insistence on the notion that if God can break the rules then he will and there's nothing we can do about it. Without any evidence whatsoever, I'm not sure why that should be a foregone conclusion.
He would still be God, he just wouldn't be trustworthy.
I was not aware the point was that God writes the law and thus adheres to them. I was gathering the notion that since God writes the law, whether he adheres to them or not, he doesn't deserve or hasn't earned the honor of being creator.
There are consequences for him to face at death since he can't die. However, God can face consequences for his actions, they just aren't the same as ours since he is not the same as us. Different circumstances create different consequences.
Also, I'm not sure what consequences you're speaking of at death. What is he going to do to wicked people after they die? It's not like they can have any effect on the living or him. I'm not sure why death in and of itself isn't the consequence of a wicked life.
Again, this is not true, but you are welcome to repeat it as many times as you like. Without further information, I just have no reason to reply to it anymore.
At best, token respect is what we give most historical figures.
God faces all kinds of things so I'm not sure why it is required to be a human experience.
This is you going back to thinking power is the single most important thing about God (It started out as justice, but I think we are finally getting to the real point) and more specifically the amount of it.
Is it correct to say that your view is that no matter God's other qualities, no matter how he uses the power he wields, & no matter the fact that people do honor him and appreciate him, none of this matters simply on the basis of God having [alleged] unlimited power somehow transforms him into a thing that deserves none of the adulation and indeed has less of a personality than a mountain?
But people judging God is not the same as a judge judging people. We can't impose any penalty on God like a Judge can on potential law breakers.
Further there seems to be an insistence on the notion that if God can break the rules then he will and there's nothing we can do about it. Without any evidence whatsoever, I'm not sure why that should be a foregone conclusion.
You are half right. It is indeed impossible for God to go against his standards. But there is no 'if he did' clause attached. If he did then he wouldn't be God. Because he had made mistake in setting his standards. And this brings us to our original point. Writing Laws and adhering to them is the same thing for God.
I was not aware the point was that God writes the law and thus adheres to them. I was gathering the notion that since God writes the law, whether he adheres to them or not, he doesn't deserve or hasn't earned the honor of being creator.
We face consequences after death when God judges us. We are good or bad in God's eyes based on his judgement. We face consequences based on his judgement. But God has no judge to make him face consequences. I am sure even God won't consider himself in terms of being great or good. He is just God.
Also, I'm not sure what consequences you're speaking of at death. What is he going to do to wicked people after they die? It's not like they can have any effect on the living or him. I'm not sure why death in and of itself isn't the consequence of a wicked life.
He can use less or more power but that doesn't mean God itself changes. His powers and his intrinsic nature stays the same.
By giving that example I was merely differentiating between token respect for courtesy and real respect. You are right even those people who are not the part of history books have done a lot for humanity. But those people did get respect for that during their lifetimes by people who knew about them. Re: My point that God unlike humans does not deserve to be adorned with adjectives such as good because God doesn't have to face certain things that all humans face. God's judgement.
God faces all kinds of things so I'm not sure why it is required to be a human experience.
A mountain earns the respect and admiration that we give it. It is formed over millions of years and undergoes continuous change and many organic and volcanic processes. God is infinitely powerful from the beginning and his creation is not any scarifice of his infinite powers.
Is it correct to say that your view is that no matter God's other qualities, no matter how he uses the power he wields, & no matter the fact that people do honor him and appreciate him, none of this matters simply on the basis of God having [alleged] unlimited power somehow transforms him into a thing that deserves none of the adulation and indeed has less of a personality than a mountain?