Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 9, 2018 12:00:22 GMT

CJG: You mean besides all the places that say he wants us to choose,
Giving us choice does not eliminate any part of your God described above, and in fact you make this exact same point below, rather self-contradictorily. If God can do anything then, well, He can readily chose not do something (like run our lives for us). At the same time of course, God can still know all of the choices someone might have, and the range of consequences, like the variations on the chess board as a game plays out.
Really? It might be best that you read what your fellow believers say about this as you never accept my word for things:
"From the moment the christian god chose to create man kind, he knew our past, present and future. In actuality, these concepts of linear time would not have meant anything to the christian god. He would know just know everything about us. "
new.exchristian.net/2013/01/why-is-god-surprised-by-events-in-bible.html
"Yes, that is true. God is never surprised" (Pastor John Piper)
www.desiringgod.org/interviews/is-god-ever-surprised
1 John 3:20 tells us "God knows everything" Ps 147:5 says clearly that God's "understanding is infinite". Again, one struggles to see caveats with these remarks. Someone whose understanding of everything is infinite cannot by definition be surprised, leaving only space for regret that things turned out as they did, when your God duly 'repents', and maybe changes His mind. (Although here I can readily imagine a superior god, one which gets things 'right' first time) And, incidentally, by being (apparently) outside of time and space, your God would necessarily have perfect foresight and aftersight anyway, would He not?
I am not sure how this limits your deity. Unless of course His penthouse has a restricted view?
Here is a helpful list, also by the faithful, of things your deity apparently cannot do - some of them though, rather confusingly, are more things he cannot stand and so irrelevant! As you can see, the rest of the shortened list all pertain to His nature or the manifestation of it, where I have already observed that philosophers commonly agree that God cannot do one thing - change His nature.
cgi.org/twelve-things-god-cannot-do
Which rather agrees with my point made at the top here which argues against your claim and so: QED.
Which part of God's "infinite understanding", or John's "He knows everything." quoted already, do you not understand? Don't you hold the Bible inerrant? And when I allege that God has done everything which can be done (as opposed to knowing everything that can be) come back with your demand again.
As usual I can only say that you could well be right, but the substantiation from Biblical authority, clear verse no less, and the easily found views of your fellow believers by way of authority makes it more likely that you are not as, between them they ought to know.

